From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 6 23:12:09 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733251065678 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.241]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481BC8FC24 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 23:12:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b33so350114ana.13 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.249.10 with SMTP id w10mr948436anh.156.1212793928668; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.154.11 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:12:08 -0700 From: "Peter Wemm" To: obrien@freebsd.org, "Peter Wemm" , "Ian FREISLICH" , current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20080606215832.GA82082@dragon.NUXI.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080606155541.GA90949@hub.freebsd.org> <20080606215832.GA82082@dragon.NUXI.org> Cc: Subject: Re: Anyone else seeing this (cvs wierdness)? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:12:09 -0000 On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 10:24:40AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 8:55 AM, David O'Brien wrote: >> > On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 04:12:39PM +0200, Ian FREISLICH wrote: >> >> Recently - I guess in the last month or two - successive cvs updates >> >> always "updates" files in the following directories, this with no >> >> update to the CVS repo: >> >> >> >> cddl/contrib/opensolaris >> >> contrib/ntp >> >> contrib/ipfilter >> >> contrib/expat >> >> contrib/tcsh >> >> >> >> I sync a local CVS repo using cvsup and I update my source using >> >> 'cvs -q update -PdA' >> > >> > Why are you always using "update -A"? Basically all the reports of >> > weirdness are due to folks not fully understanding what -A does and is >> > for. >> > >> > If -A removes stickly dates, tags, and (what you're seeing here) stickly >> > options. Options can be set locally, in the ,v file on the server. Some >> > keywords (such as $Name$) may need to be updated due to "update -A". >> >> We use -A because we've often messed with sticky dates and tags in our >> checked out copy and want to reset anything we've forgotten and start > .. >> This is not what is happening now. If the server has a nonstandard >> rcs keyword expansion mode, cvs fetches a fresh copy, each and every >> time. Even if the checked out copy has the correct expansion mode. >> Over and over and over again. > > Talk to the CVS developers (and read the bug report trail that lead to > this change). This behavior is intended. I'm not saying I care for it, > but its not a bug. It is a bug. The old working behavior is what we've come to depend on and there is no replacement for the 'reset sticky tags and dates' mode that we *need*. Unless we have a way to get the old behavior back, we still need this backed out to the state it was in 6.x and 7.x, where it !^%@$#^!%@#!@# works! -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell