From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 8 07:23:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCBC1065673; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: from kientzle.com (kientzle.com [66.166.149.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B47798FC15; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 07:23:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by kientzle.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) id n387NGar005937; Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Received: from dark.x.kientzle.com (fw2.kientzle.com [10.123.1.2]) by kientzle.com with SMTP id euxpcec7z463iv5e3s7sj7x3f2; Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:23:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kientzle@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <49DC50E3.8080600@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:23:15 -0700 From: Tim Kientzle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090404 SeaMonkey/1.1.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Marcus Clarke References: <934e1d760904061455o4736d643o1d07e3292192d94c@mail.gmail.com> <1239078081.1908.41.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <49DAE987.7090802@freebsd.org> <1239086408.35025.59.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <20090407185915.GY31409@albert.catwhisker.org> <49DBA371.3080804@freebsd.org> <92cd2ff70904071637h362da63ua13c1f8eca6fc616@mail.gmail.com> <1239147806.98664.12.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <92cd2ff70904071653r4bf3b381lf5de220b2e280c0c@mail.gmail.com> <1239150469.98664.18.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <49DC405B.7090208@freebsd.org> <1239172068.98664.35.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <1239172068.98664.35.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Freddie Cash , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hal and KDM breakage (was Re: KDE4 and input events stalled) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 07:23:19 -0000 Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 23:12 -0700, Tim Kientzle wrote: >> >> Option 1: Comment out this line from /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald >> #start_cmd="hald_start" > > This sounds right, but I have not validated the functionality of an > immediate start of hald on -CURRENT. One problem we were seeing prior > to bland's work, and prior to the delay was that the keyboard and mouse > would lock up if CK was started before init spawned the ttys. So beyond > making sure CK reports the correct active session, you would want to > make sure X is usable at all. I'm using an immediate hald startup right now with the traditional KDM entry in /etc/ttys and everything seems just spiffy. In particular, keyboard and mouse are quite happy. (My only problem right now are some X shutdown issues which I believe to be unrelated.) I'm not sure how to check "CK reports the correct active session", though. Pointers? Tim