Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 07:25:38 +0100 From: Jan Beich <jbeich@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> Cc: Martin Wilke <miwi@freebsd.org>, Christoph Moench-Tegeder <cmt@burggraben.net>, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r490910 - in head: Mk Mk/Uses mail/thunderbird www/firefox www/firefox-esr www/firefox-i18n www/firefox/files www/palemoon www/seamonkey Message-ID: <fttj-51r1-wny@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20190123060910.GA74821@FreeBSD.org> (Alexey Dokuchaev's message of "Wed, 23 Jan 2019 06:09:10 %2B0000") References: <201901212303.x0LN3jR3059519@repo.freebsd.org> <CAGBxaX=T7SvB6Ncm-0Drt1-HLED92xKuJ-LRvg%2BYsDFKrYCp4A@mail.gmail.com> <CAGBxaXmOibxw_q5Ev34oyiCetNRqNVLNY5VjQrJZFEFTy6nDhg@mail.gmail.com> <o989-8nt8-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122100911.GA77378@elch.exwg.net> <d0oo-fn3l-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190122205210.GA2480@elch.exwg.net> <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> <20190123044522.GA8128@FreeBSD.org> <sgxj-53au-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20190123060910.GA74821@FreeBSD.org>
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Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> writes: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 06:52:09AM +0100, Jan Beich wrote: > >> Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> writes: >> > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 10:17:42AM +0800, Martin Wilke wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: >> >> > ... >> >> > Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland" >> >> > might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the >> >> > WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always? >> > >> > Please don't. I have zero reasons to want/enable Wayland bits and deal >> > with all the extra bloat that comes with it. Modern FreeBSD/X.org stack >> > is quite bloated already (e.g. compared with my 8.4-STABLE setup). >> >> And I have zero reasons to fight your WAYLAND=off battle. If all you >> can offer are bikesheds then like with PulseAudio expect me to not care. > > While both Wayland and PulseAudio are of course useless pieces of software, > I did not object Wayland being enabled by default as long as I can turn it > off. I don't see how this level of granularity is bikeshed. There are > large parts of functionality that are completely useless for various groups > of people (graphics support for servers, CUPS support for users without a > printer, etc.) and thus were traditionally made optional. Pulling Wayland > unconditionally goes against the way we do things (and did for years) in > FreeBSD Ports Collection. If Firefox upstream drops support for building WAYLAND=off then I'm not going to spend extra effort to keep it alive.
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