From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 25 22:16:37 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775237B401 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:16:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net (puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE8A4400E for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:16:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from user-2ivfirs.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.203.124] helo=mindspring.com) by puffin.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19VP7P-0003wU-00; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:16:24 -0700 Message-ID: <3EFA8167.E1EE7FC4@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 22:15:19 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "M. Warner Losh" References: <200306251557.25303.m-trade@hotpop.com> <20030625.102024.35071759.imp@bsdimp.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4a7fc51b199d00fb4b22805ea50210c3f2601a10902912494350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: m-trade@hotpop.com cc: FreeBSD-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8MB install X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:16:37 -0000 "M. Warner Losh" wrote: > In message: <200306251557.25303.m-trade@hotpop.com> > M-Trade writes: > : Has anyone had any success installing 5.1 release on a 486 > : w/ 8MB RAM? I can't install. > : > : avail memory = (245760) 0 MB > : > : Is this expected behavior? > > Yes. The generic kernel is a big fat pigdog. you might be able to > cope with a stripped down kernel, but sysinstall will dump core unless > you sneak in early in the process and add more swap. you really need > at least 16MB if not 24MB of RAM to install 5 If you use the project supplied installation tools (e.g. sysinstall from a monster RAM disk from a compressed disk image whose memory is pretty much not recovered, etc.). There *are* other ways to install than booting a CDROM; they are just more labor intensive, and require FreeBSD running on a more poswerful machine to set up the install for the other machine. -- Terry