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Date:      Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:02:11 -0400
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
To:        "Jung-uk Kim" <jkim@freebsd.org>
Cc:        svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r222795 - head/sys/dev/atkbdc
Message-ID:  <201106071402.11620.jhb@freebsd.org>
In-Reply-To: <201106071139.41955.jkim@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <201106062303.p56N3cjs053024@svn.freebsd.org> <201106070952.49563.jhb@freebsd.org> <201106071139.41955.jkim@FreeBSD.org>

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On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:39:26 am Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2011 09:52 am, John Baldwin wrote:
> The whole point of this commit is to blacklist *recent* BIOS (or CSM) 
> from probing keyboard typematic information, more specifically, 
> recent Intel chipset platforms.  They don't support many INT 15h/16h 
> functions but only cause trouble at best.  OTOH, I haven't seen such 
> problems with AMD chipset systems and they all seem to have 
> traditional entry points at the interrupt vector table, for example.

Err, but you didn't blacklist recent BIOS.  You blacklist _all_ BIOS that use 
entry points other than the ones from the UEFI spec, including BIOSes that 
don't claim to support UEFI and the BIOS from the two systems I quoted.

> > You might as well just turn the check off on all machines at this
> > point rather than using completely arbitrary tests that are only
> > valid on a small fraction of the x86 universe.
> 
> I don't think it is "completely" arbitrary.  If it doesn't have the 
> traditional entry points, it is very unlikely to support keyboard 
> typematic in the first place.  Please let me know if you have any 
> counter example.

Umm, I just gave you two examples.  UEFI is not a standard appropriate to the 
vast majority of x86 BIOS implementations.  It is far, far too narrow.

Put another way, we should assume that all non-recent BIOSes do not conform to 
UEFI (since many older systems pre-date the UEFI spec for one) and that they 
have all been effectively blacklisted now.  Given that, you've now restricted 
this functionality to only a subset of recent BIOSes and have blacklisted the 
rest of the known universe.

However, the simplest fix is probably to just remove this entirely as I doubt 
anyone really depends on the BIOS settings for these anyway.

-- 
John Baldwin



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