From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 01:07:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B08C41065670 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686208FC12 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qadz32 with SMTP id z32so2880651qad.13 for ; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XAVrWUhJ52Ysf9+s41yxcRRBbkS2BWl2ArVCxxR/u0k=; b=vo42Al9LqG9hZ3xdfseUfwzgBmf3fTixbQHnHF3XDFxBKvAcTFovIpBb9fpfRxbdLx Ou/AUf6Sv0ERCnxBicYBiH3bXu6yw7aKQ5NDsAMAfVz19n5g3YzWhRPn7JmGBTtClLzc lw9Ym644LEWj9Sa7qn18SQISsiB2PUQDDrV5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.52.131 with SMTP id i3mr27256087qag.11.1319677663514; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.19.212 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:07:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:07:43 -0400 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Arnaud Lacombe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.0 amd64 RC1 and KDE4 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:07:44 -0000 On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Arnaud Lacombe wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > wrote: > > The KDE4 in FreeBSD 9.0 RC1 amd64 is generating enormous amount of error > > messages during usage ( not visible on screen , but seen after > Ctrl-Alt-F1 > > discontinuation of X ) . This is making it extremely slow which may be > > considered to be practically unusable . Actually parts are working > generally > > but every step is waiting so much that such a usage is not practically > > applicable . > > > What are the message(s) ? > > Thanks, > - Arnaud > > > The KDE4 in FreeBSD 9.0 RC1 i386 is working satisfactorily , but for > memory > > requirements , it is not an alternative . > > > > There are important usability differences between both architectures with > > respect to KDE4 execution . > > > > > > One alternative is mentioned as PC-BSD , but installation of PC-BSD is > NOT > > possible : > > > > In PC-BSD 8.2 amd64 Release and following snapshot(s) , within 18 ( > eighteen > > ) hours , only a small percent ( less than % 10 ) could be installed . > > Now , in PC-BSD 9.0 RC1 amd64 , I am still waiting : In 4 ( four ) hours > it > > could come to "Installing Meta Package : base-system" . > > Such an installation structure is really unusable . I will discontinue it > > because it seems that complete install will require many days with that > > speed . > > > > I am continuously installing many other distributions which mostly they > are > > consuming time around thirty minutes ( except upgrade during installation > , > > if it is selected ) . > > > > Thirty minutes may be considered an acceptable duration for installation > , > > let's say , time less than one hour as endurable . > > It should not be forgotten that , the task is copy of approximately 4 > Giga > > Bytes to hard disk from a DVD-Rom with an additional decompressing of > files > > . > > > > Therefore , for the KDE4 users in the amd64 platform , there is a big > > problem . > > > > This was also the case for 8.2 amd64 Release . > > > > > > > > Thank you very much . > > > > > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > Please see my reply to Alberto Villa . ( I am installing onto a single hard disk , I am NOT using any virtual machine . I consider using virtual machine in final testing an important error because at the end the distribution will be installed onto a bare metal . ) On that hard disk , I was trying to install PC-BSD 9.0 amd64 RC1 , to check its KDE4 usage , but due to its very long install time , I have discontinued it and I have Installed Scientific Linux . It is using KDE4 and it is working very well . Therefore , I will not be able to supply any error message at present . My opinion is that , the error messages are not directly related to my computer , but inconsistencies between compiled parts . For example , one message was about : kcheckrunning is not found . This was in /usr/local/kde4/bin directory . By thinking PATH is not properly defined , I have included /usr/local/kde4/bin into PATH , but that did not solve any problem . I have checked the 9.0 i386 RC1 PATH . It does not contain /usr/local/kde4/bin . I have studied /usr/local/kde4/bin/startkde script ( without much understanding ) of 9.0 amd64 RC1 . It seems that , it is defining path itself . I do not know whether its definition is correct or not . Perhaps the problem is in those definitions . Additionally there was "...?... crashed" messages . I do not know . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk