From owner-freebsd-fs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 2 14:59:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54056106564A for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:59:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (cl-162.ewr-01.us.sixxs.net [IPv6:2001:4830:1200:a1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B636C8FC1B for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:59:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from lor.one-eyed-alien.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m62ExVZa042877; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:59:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks@lor.one-eyed-alien.net) Received: (from brooks@localhost) by lor.one-eyed-alien.net (8.14.2/8.14.2/Submit) id m62ExTCD042876; Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:59:29 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from brooks) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 09:59:29 -0500 From: Brooks Davis To: Wes Morgan Message-ID: <20080702145929.GA33529@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> References: <20080701213006.37D675B4B@mail.bitblocks.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (lor.one-eyed-alien.net [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:59:31 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org, ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: It's 2008. 1 TB disk drives cost $160. Quotas are 32-bit. X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:59:11 -0000 --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 07:25:49PM -0500, Wes Morgan wrote: > On Tue, 1 Jul 2008, Bakul Shah wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:02:54 +0200 Bernd Walter wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 10:59:31AM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: >>>> To bring this back on topic, perhaps John Kobuzik can just >>>> use the zfs since it already has quota support? For example, >>>>=20 >>>> # zfs create z/foo >>>> # zfs quota=3D10M z/foo >>>> dd < /dev/zero bs=3D1M count=3D20 > /z/foo/xx >>>> dd: stdout: Disc quota exceeded >>>> 11+0 records in >>>> 10+0 records out >>>> 10485760 bytes transferred in 4.718700 secs (2222171 bytes/sec) >>>> # zfs set quota=3D10T z/foo >>>> # zfs get quota z/foo >>>> NAME PROPERTY VALUE SOURCE >>>> z/foo quota 10T local >>>=20 >>> This is basicly what the partition size is for normal filesystems, >>> with the great ability of course to change it cheaply at any time. >>> But this is in no way a per user quota in the way ufs does. >>=20 >> It is not the same but can serve a similer purpose if each >> user gets his own filesystem (and yes, I am aware of the >> rebooting issue with zfs with thousands of filesystems). He >> wanted support for 2TB+ quota on ufs by July 20. If that >> doesn't happen at least he can limp along with this. >=20 > On a totally spurrious note, I'd love to know the storage environment whe= re=20 > a 1 TB quota on a multi-user system is meaningful. If I truly need that= =20 > much space as a user, and I hit your quota limit, I'll probably be a > very, very unhappy user! That's probably about where we'll set the default quotas (probably more like 5-10TB) on a new system we're deploying at work. It's more that most users will need, but will ensure that a few users can't run us out of space (40TB available). -- Brooks --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFIa5fQXY6L6fI4GtQRAlz/AJ9oi/fsbXt+FyPc/1w1bYBkt9MejACcDinq 0iNnZRdKuzZ0JkAI5V5qI28= =VMjq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OgqxwSJOaUobr8KG--