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Date:      Thu, 6 Mar 2014 09:57:08 -0600 (CST)
From:      "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        "illoai@gmail.com" <illoai@gmail.com>
Cc:        John Johnstone <jjohnstone@tridentusa.com>, "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Requiring list subscriptions (was Re: [Fwd: Gain Organic  Traffic: Freebsdish.Org :PS])
Message-ID:  <38984.128.135.70.2.1394121428.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>
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Which makes perfect point in support of my decision to unsubscribe from
this list (which I already did, so: you are receiving e-mail from someone
who is not list member ;-)

Being not a newbie, I have that special feeling that I'm fleeing the place
where I might be of some help sometimes... but I hope there are still many
sharp people (more knowledgeable than I am ;-) who are staying.

Valeri

On Tue, March 4, 2014 8:48 pm, illoai@gmail.com wrote:
> On 4 March 2014 21:25, John Johnstone <jjohnstone@tridentusa.com> wrote:
>> On 3/4/2014 4:13 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear mail list owner,
>
>> I've been subscribed to mailing lists for quite a few years but only to
>> just
>> a few lists so perhaps my experience overall is quite limited.  The
>> FreeBSD
>> mailing lists are the only ones I've come across that have the policy of
>> "anyone can post".  I was stunned to discover that you could post to the
>> FreeBSD mailing lists without being subscribed.  All other lists I've
>> encountered have the policy of "only subscribers can post" with the
>> obvious
>> intent of keeping out spam.  Their thinking is also "ask here" and "get
>> an
>> answer here".  I'm curious to know what percentage of mailing lists
>> today
>> allow posting by non-subscribers.
>>
>> Although I've only been subscribed to this list for about a year I don't
>> recall ever seeing spam that wouldn't have been stopped by requiring
>> subscription to post.  Has there ever been any spam to this list that
>> used a
>> forged subscriber address?
>
> Hi!
>
> Sorry, I hope not.  This list (freebsd-questions@freebsd.org) has been
> this way for a long time, despite the spam problem. It is a newbie list,
> and most spammers are rejected soon enough (generally after one
> post) that it hardly matters, so the requirement to subscribe seems a
> tad onerous to some barely-hatched FreeBSD-er who wants to ask a
> question without having to sort through a veritable fire-hose (okay, the
> lists have slowed down significantly since the late 1990s & early 2000s,
> but there's still plenty of traffic).  In any case, not all of the lists
> are
> like this.
>
> It has been discussed a great many times in the last couple of decades,
> as well, so I am adding an apology for adding to the noise level here:
> sorry.  I doubt the official policy will be changing soon.
>
> Tertiarily (point-wise), I get more spam from having my address harvested
> from the archives than I get on-list.  It's annoying, but it's part of the
> non-
> obvious price of otherwise free tech support.
>
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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