From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 18 05:16:50 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC62106566B for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:16:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (cpoproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [69.89.21.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 758ED8FC18 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 17370 invoked by uid 0); 18 Feb 2011 05:16:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by cpoproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2011 05:16:49 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=apotheon.com; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Mail-Followup-To:References:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=QclFI9KV8CMf3WOERcxYI2ceo0CkVkAXEzqb7YkfMfRKZ8eeYhp6wmoQrl+c0khWLwr/bdTAZnrO00LkTP5AWXonAoG+W58B4c5x70HvZlmIOefsrhF3G/clKEhOje4O; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=kukaburra.hydra) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqIi0-0003cv-Fb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:16:49 -0700 Received: by kukaburra.hydra (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:06:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:06:20 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110218050620.GA81273@guilt.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3380813072-1551442120@intranet.com.mx> <20110218032357.GD2049@comcast.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110218032357.GD2049@comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.org} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with ren@apotheon.org} Subject: Re: Best Laptop to buy for Freebsd Without OS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:16:50 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 07:23:57PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: >=20 > Does it have to be new? =20 >=20 > The best deal might be to get a used laptop. Then it doesn't matter > what it originally shipped with, all you care about is whether it's on > the FreeBSD hardware compatibility list. >=20 > Along these lines, I've seen many people recommending used ThinkPads. > Might not be powerful enough for the latest Windows, but more than > capable for running a BSD. Be very careful buying used laptops. There are a lot of refurbishers who are very shady, and a lot of private sellers online that are trying to make a fast buck off broken hardware. In fact, I wrote some code for a shady refurbisher last year to clean infections of their laptops -- infections that had worked its way into the images they used to clone drives for refurbished computers. I think thousands of their systems probably went out infected before they had me automate the virus-cleaning process for them. The short version is simply that I've seen how shady refurbishers work, up close and personal. Let the buyer beware. --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAk1d/kwACgkQ9mn/Pj01uKV26QCeMU3FEBi/hQm6rWjqT32XmAfg zykAoJ2YIOtcy3RUtJh9SHCU+1PROs/W =O2Tu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l--