From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 25 20:48:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99404F87 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:48:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from simon@qxnitro.org) Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCCE8FC13 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id w12so9710811lag.26 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:48:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=qxnitro.org; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sTQj4BGmQ/oLatsogyP3GKkZQFcAPq8ySgAXg+LSRr8=; b=WFzkQS0BkTRcudRxcCZM4NSYWA9UGHWZB76YKyKJzMKNWX+/cW49GqWIjMBvSn4sLV ankZfzMdnocaq4fklYumVhI7MS5pgZObA63YJ+r6LNChVAxd50cdPsr3IIShut66xq3o gnpzIsVFYx8tgDWvKwOJojzV54KVYI1TlQVfI= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=sTQj4BGmQ/oLatsogyP3GKkZQFcAPq8ySgAXg+LSRr8=; b=Wj7h4iuaaMvguaEOuQDCl9xPbbryHVVt4HYZQJlGWEt070RWcSffc4qr5x1LoW1gE7 bmKVtqwaH7azEawFKPH4NuVi6TP+Cl04SbbIP5r+z5LFV/fh015X3eZSqk08MP2sJqSw 42bzPzuFPnn2UJ3VY1MGHWR+BJURrIruh/TzfIgv61eCA9rqwsCR9bQ3zcMPqZHmALRi /cx+QpkZQOSGNpJK4HmX1O5k22I2kWrqjTN2xPYmCUphUIto0761LBUvWPuhj+h96GkF SXSYGrXeMWd/Bd9gWAH1iEgm97uLehZiXvBe7w0amKVxfDLuAfh4aLr8x/KafFUV60uv l4iQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.110.229 with SMTP id id5mr23658306lab.36.1356468486934; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: simon@qxnitro.org Received: by 10.112.12.52 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:48:06 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [93.163.223.40] In-Reply-To: <20121225194918.GA6478@rwpc15.mby.riverwillow.net.au> References: <20121221233229.GA34744@rwpc15.mby.riverwillow.net.au> <20121225194918.GA6478@rwpc15.mby.riverwillow.net.au> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 21:48:06 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: V6sV9ev6coGvUQq4RLcs8F3LzKY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Web Site and gnats not being updated via CVSup From: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" To: John Marshall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk64XG7WjXnPZs7RkCa/DgIPk69w6wTG/7TaWMiUMYTLj9ptHblluPwmmUcznUcMEPLYjOS Cc: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 20:48:14 -0000 On 25 December 2012 20:49, John Marshall wrote: > On Tue, 25 Dec 2012, 11:06 +0100, Simon L. B. Nielsen wrote: >> >> I didn't have a chance to look into it now, but it was a side effect >> of a recent step in reworking the www infrastructure where >> www.FreeBSD.org doesn't currently point to the actual web server, but >> a frontend reverse proxy. Unfortunately the cvsup pull from >> cvsup-master of web data used www as a name so it broke when the DNS >> entry for www was updated. I fixed this now, and I can see on >> cvsup-master that the latest sync actually pulled changes. > > Thank you, Simon, for attending to this. I have just checked several > WWW mirrors and all appear to be up to date again. Great! >> The problem with GNATS is that cvsupd is broken on FreeBSD 10, and the >> master source of GNATS data (freefall) runs FreeBSD 10.0. >> >> See also: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2012-December/071364.html > > So, if the Project is deciding to bury CVSup as soon as possible, is a It's not as much as soon as possible (e.g. core decided to support 9.1 on cvsup so that's for the next 2 years). For GNAT's it wasn't planned to stop support it, cvsup just broke on FreeBSD 10 and setting up rsync was deemed less work considering the expected relatively few downstream users, and that active work is in progress to replace GNATS. > new method of distributing the web site to WWW mirrors being planned > (e.g. rsync)? or will the existing mirrors be decommissioned to make way If cvsup were to die for technical reasons, rsync would certainly be the obvious replacement at the moment. > for the new Project-owned-and-operated infrastructre? With regard to other www mirrors, no decision has been taken on this either way. I personally think that there are too many currently, based on how many are out of date, but before being able to comment on having more or fewer mirrors in general, somebody (else) need to look into how many users there actually are of the web mirrors and if people actually find them useful. -- Simon L. B. Nielsen