From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Nov 30 09:54:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA21196 for chat-outgoing; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:54:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from anlsun.ebr.anlw.anl.gov (anlsun.ebr.anlw.anl.gov [141.221.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA21185 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:54:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cmott@srv.net) Received: from darkstar.home (dialin1.anlw.anl.gov [141.221.254.101]) by anlsun.ebr.anlw.anl.gov (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA13548 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 1997 10:54:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 10:53:51 -0700 (MST) From: Charles Mott X-Sender: cmott@darkstar.home To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: daemon stories ( german customs ) In-Reply-To: <199711301430.GAA12170@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Yup. I have a sticker in the back window of my car (actually a Toyota > > 4x4 with a shell) from my ISP. They're pretty much a bunch of tech- > > heads stuck (by their own choice) here behind the "Zion Curtain." Some > > "Zion Curtain."???????? > > know of Zion Gate, Mount Zion, but not "Zion Curtain." In Utah and surrounding areas, the word Zion seems to be associated with the Mormon Church, although I am not sure specifically how or why. The major department store is named ZCMI (the Z standing for Zion), there is a Zion National Bank and even a Zion National Park. In the middle 1800s, Brigham Young led a great number of people to settle near the Great Salt Lake. This was and is a tremendously arid and desolate region with no natural rivers to the ocean. The land was unwanted but by a few (everyone else at the time was anxious to get to California). The Mormons chose to irrigate and farm what was considered a wasteland. The early Mormons went through some difficult experiences -- a long migration, near famine and even armed conflict with the U.S. Army in the 1870s -- and I am guessing there was a tendency to draw biblical analogies with their experiences and hence the frequent use of the word Zion. Charles Mott