From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Wed Feb 1 21:55:54 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2914CCC098 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:55:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Received: from outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org (outbound1a.eu.mailhop.org [52.58.109.202]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48A801D63 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:55:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) X-MHO-User: 2d40e750-e8c9-11e6-95b5-6dfd7dbb0ee5 X-Report-Abuse-To: https://support.duocircle.com/support/solutions/articles/5000540958-duocircle-standard-smtp-abuse-information X-Originating-IP: 73.78.92.27 X-Mail-Handler: DuoCircle Outbound SMTP Received: from ilsoft.org (unknown [73.78.92.27]) by outbound1.eu.mailhop.org (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 2d40e750-e8c9-11e6-95b5-6dfd7dbb0ee5; Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from rev (rev [172.22.42.240]) by ilsoft.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id v11Ltavn019737; Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:55:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ian@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <1485986136.3017.89.camel@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r312910 - in head: . etc/etc.pc98 etc/rc.d lib/libsysdecode libexec release release/doc release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/hardware release/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/readme release/doc/share/example... From: Ian Lepore To: Slawa Olhovchenkov , Mark Linimon Cc: John Baldwin , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , src-committers , Warner Losh , Takahashi Yoshihiro Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 14:55:36 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20170201215007.GA37974@zxy.spb.ru> References: <201701280222.v0S2MFSR022477@repo.freebsd.org> <3458844.3oruRKbrzH@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201103555.GA79121@zxy.spb.ru> <12386326.7GSpFTXsMZ@ralph.baldwin.cx> <20170201170950.GF79121@zxy.spb.ru> <20170201213956.GA3765@lonesome.com> <20170201215007.GA37974@zxy.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.1 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:55:54 -0000 On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 00:50 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:39:57PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not > > build > > on 4.x, nor have they done so for years.  I personally removed the > > legacy > > cruft when 4.11 finally went EOL. > > > > > > > > I am got complains about using ports on 8.x. > > I am 99% certain that ports will not work on either 8.x or > > 9.x.  Legacy > > cruft was removed at the EOL in each of those cases. > > > > Anyone who think that we can support ports on 4.x, 5.x, 6.x, 7.x, > > 8.x, > > 9.x, 10.x, 11.x, and -current, all at the same time, needs to seek > > medical > > attention at once.  At the absolute least, that era spans 3 major > > versions > > of make(1) and two completely different package implementations. > I am assume no problem to use new make on old system. > May be posible use pkg too (not sure about pkg requirements to > syscalls). > I can't say anything about 4.x, but I have no problems building current ports on 8.2.  I have backported a few crucial changes to make, like handling :tl and :tu, and that's about it.  It may not be officially supported, but it's not hard to make it work for those who have a need. I also still support systems that use true ISA-slot hardware, but that doesn't include any storage or network controllers.  Mostly the ISA cards are proprietary things, plus one ancient 8-port uart expansion card that amazingly still works and can still be purchased. -- Ian