From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 10:47:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31299106564A for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:47:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8758FC08 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q56AlIv9078366 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:47:18 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q56AlIv9078366 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infracaninophile.co.uk; s=201001-infracaninophile; t=1338979638; bh=x0iSAxtZKbf3T5Emz808ifj0mSq+t33tJ/2h+jXlRl4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Cc:Content-Type: Message-ID:Mime-Version; b=FboZImi+boIW0wkngWzKItg7o9JhYoPvhBkfuLVL0AIq6PiQKD13gQHswgM7gexVg /i8UyjrWBb7txW14xIaNGQvi1a+XM0wQ+1L9CvFpl6jU1upAUwnuD0MKoJ10/hmKHd WmQruuRn1cu/nRHENJSsnA69qYrki2wHrOps6zSo= Message-ID: <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:47:11 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 OpenPGP: id=60AE908C Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_ALL,DKIM_SIGNED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:47:23 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: > I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 > goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as > many binaries as you want. Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? $99 as a one-off payment might seem a trivial cost to you, so much so that you rather rashly promised to pay that for anyone. I won't hold you to it. Even so, there are several thousand readers of this list. I doubt even you could afford to subsidise very many of them... Yes UEFI Secure Boot may have been around for 8 years. The fact that no one has adopted use of it in all that time speaks volumes. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/PNTYACgkQ8Mjk52CukIwhzwCfTlg6XejomVqkYBqFjU8fcj5n KHAAniSyXN+xUAAcBt1mPVT7hKZjoItv =iF1F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF2A24D4004EF6AC5DA021216--