From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 30 11:29:38 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669B616A4CE for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:29:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpout.mac.com (A17-250-248-84.apple.com [17.250.248.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3E343D31 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:29:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (8.12.6/MantshX 2.0) with ESMTP id hBUJTaOJ028245; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:29:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.1.1.193] (nfw2.codefab.com [66.234.138.66]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 3.0) with ESMTP id hBUJTaOR000172; Tue, 30 Dec 2003 11:29:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.2.20031229173854.03c43660@localhost> References: <200312291957.MAA24137@lariat.org> <8385797A-3A3F-11D8-9B18-003065ABFD92@mac.com> <6.0.0.22.2.20031229135826.038d4f88@localhost> <6.0.0.22.2.20031229173854.03c43660@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8037336B-3AFE-11D8-9B18-003065ABFD92@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Charles Swiger Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 14:29:35 -0500 To: Brett Glass X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: Burning DVD-R's X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:29:38 -0000 On Dec 29, 2003, at 7:43 PM, Brett Glass wrote: > At 03:31 PM 12/29/2003, Charles Swiger wrote: >> Meaning what? You want to make sure the software really works with >> DVD-R, but you are not willing to test the software yourself? > > I didn't say that. However, if there's an alternative that's a sure > winner, I'd likely want to go with that instead rather than wasting > time on something that might not work. Fair enough. I don't know how to make burncd burn DVD-R's. People have been able to use the port I mentioned to burn DVD-R's, at least if their hardware is capable of doing so. >>> The code is also GPLed. I'm looking, if at all possible, for an >>> all-BSD >>> solution. >> >> Is the license actually a genuine concern, or are you inventing >> excuses? > > The license is a very great concern, for reasons I've mentioned > elsewhere. We like to be able to look at and tweak the software we > use, and we can't look at GPLed code for legal reasons. Well, you've done me the courtesy of answering my question. I do not see why the GPL would prevent you from looking at or modifying DVD+RW-tools if you wanted to-- unless you plan on selling or redistributing closed-source DVD-burning software (seems unlikely)-- but it doesn't matter whether I understand these "legal reasons" or not. > Also, no BSD-based operating system should be dependent upon GPLed > code. I'm glad to see that Jeroen and others are working on > alternative toolchain components. My opinion is that FreeBSD is better off having tools like "less" as part of the OS. Come to think of it, "less" is now dual-licensed under both a BSD-style license and the GPL. Perhaps you could ask Andy whether he would be willing to make dvd+rw-tools available for your use under a different license? -- -Chuck