From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jan 24 15:34:46 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00E8C4FF170 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:34:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.134]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DNxrP0srMz3hMK for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:34:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.94.3]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1M26iv-1l1ERG0exV-002YyF; Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:34:43 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 16:34:41 +0100 From: Polytropon To: Victor Sudakov Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xorg crashes several times a day Message-Id: <20210124163441.b0f6445f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IkhC7Bk9KbmBkHbbryeqxOr9wNhElfdjxfaDti75PKFTv4RCY2p J2/7wl0PN/C8/o1G1PsQXlBqBLKo1jY4rHX7bB85tYULRnJOJ+NJhGjihGIIPVwCcrpAyZn CCLfKVkAGhNM4FkSvCLvIUHkWJWxPZn9sjhAIeB6meLNC0D4YNr+zNdFY8364jObe4XXf/W cY7eUbHDv0hGMXUtTJRaw== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:e1gHtDULQL0=:cNzl2wAMF6BdqsUr7ATmbM T2P00xLH3KZu037rQfRmvcjBegGOJvSxceG8OgTzbTXYern9oNVD0cwEuPr3qgvJVSjO2ZMSQ +Kqtbl2W1jOSV+h8sF3bTIXerGVwJbZRsadBBRppIhnV0KVX4SmoGhXnj0oJr2O+8QD/EOqH1 XZey7h2G/h67qLJdl2cvP/mIIPc695DfEj+Mcz7nIQP+LmO14UhH3X2b9oqYzWxqlNxLXiMu1 Ipa51WxaCb0K8lD/LC2dx0aBIe8Z2dQVii4VmaKiy65Jd/tetr7/uWN0K1kQjLzm4GwqI3j3p hYkerb+PjmwATI3ihKh2XPG35CMxLCiEYjXRqcQTzWILjoxJ0Y+DyIhexEbGf4I3YSlrdlWqy HxJWgC0I7x6XH+iEtbSLmSoIj0W8edbAa3EqL5UCf9Z9tdE8+kUoxto5uRNh/ X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DNxrP0srMz3hMK X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.134) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.60 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.5.94.3:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.134:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2021 15:34:46 -0000 On Sun, 24 Jan 2021 21:28:11 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: > But really, is the graphics/drm-kmod port really necessary and why? Modern X hooks deeply into kernel structures, direct rendering is the default, there is no text mode anymore, and Linux is the primary driver for the graphics stack. So - you're stuck with KMS if you want to use X. :-( This particular port is a meta-port that contains several drivers for various brands and models, and it requires the kernel source to be able to actually compile the modules. > The > default FreeBSD installation already contains /boot/kernel/i915kms.ko > and /boot/kernel/drm2.ko, and I load them from rc.conf. > > Is anything wrong with them? Wrong binary interface, if I remember correctly, that's why it was neccessary to recompile them manually, and use them instead of what the OS provides. Strange, isn't it? :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...