From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 19 02:37:08 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C957737B401; Mon, 19 May 2003 02:37:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-67-115-75-172.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [67.115.75.172]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5DFF43FA3; Mon, 19 May 2003 02:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from rot13.obsecurity.org (rot13.obsecurity.org [10.0.0.5]) by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8682A66B9B; Mon, 19 May 2003 02:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by rot13.obsecurity.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F7784BC; Mon, 19 May 2003 02:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 02:37:06 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway To: Joerg Wunsch Message-ID: <20030519093706.GA90624@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <200305190828.h4J8S8l0069634@repoman.freebsd.org> <20030519085637.GA71335@rot13.obsecurity.org> <20030519111649.A2937@uriah.heep.sax.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030519111649.A2937@uriah.heep.sax.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org cc: cvs-all@freebsd.org cc: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: BROKEN tags (Re: cvs commit: ports/devel/avr-libc Makefile) X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:37:09 -0000 --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 19, 2003 at 11:16:49AM +0200, Joerg Wunsch wrote: > As Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > > > Remove BROKEN. It's not that port that is broken, but FreeBSD 5.x = in > > > that it has broken /again/ all cross-compilation attempts. Whoever > > > broke it ought to fix that. > >=20 > > BROKEN indicates that the port does not compile. While I agree with > > you that the fault lies with bsd.cpu.mk, this fact remains true. >=20 > Still, by now, the policy has been that whoever broke the system is > repsonsible for fixing it. If someone breaks buildworld, we don't > mark the entire system `broken', but require him to fix the breakage. I'm not debating the nature of the problem or who should fix it. As you know, I cc'ed the committer on the message where I identified the commit that introduced the problem. Instead of looking at this issue as "Committer X broke my port, so why should I have to put up with a BROKEN message in my port for something that wasn't my fault?" try to see it in terms of the end user -- you know, the guy out there for whom we're all supposed to be providing an OS. He or she just wants to install the software and doesn't care which unknown person caused the problem, only that it exists and is a known bug that prevents the port from building, so they shouldn't waste their time trying. Kris --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+yKXCWry0BWjoQKURAmPzAJ9IQN+vuQ9JsqZ4noYDZ1cY6hEwtQCeI/G/ OypU5B4Uz5oKY/TEji12fRI= =0Mbj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh--