From owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 18 15:44:06 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23B416A4CE for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:44:06 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C0643D54 for ; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:44:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from bsdaemon@comcast.net) Received: from fw.home (pcp05404374pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net[68.80.144.252]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <20050118154405011000gqkse>; Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:44:05 +0000 Received: (qmail 8812 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2005 15:44:20 -0000 Received: from kris.home (HELO ?192.168.0.251?) (192.168.0.251) by fw.home with SMTP; 18 Jan 2005 15:44:20 -0000 Message-ID: <41ED3019.9020600@comcast.net> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:49:45 -0500 From: Kris Maglione User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041212) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org References: <41ED1FD5.8090401@comcast.net> <20050118144209.GF3054@empiric.icir.org> In-Reply-To: <20050118144209.GF3054@empiric.icir.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.5.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: ath: a few questions X-BeenThere: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org List-Id: Mobile computing with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:44:07 -0000 Bruce M Simpson wrote: >On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 09:40:21AM -0500, Kris Maglione wrote: > > >>Second, according to CVS, hw.ath.outdoors was made tunable a year ago, but >>sysctl says it's readonly when I try to change it. It's stuck at 1, which >>seems to be a possible explanation for why it's indoor use sucks so badly >>compared to the windows driver, especially through walls. >> >> > >I'm running 5.3-STABLE as of last Wednesday and do not see this sysctl. > >Please give version information (uname -a) when posting this kind of query, >as it's next to impossible to give useful advice otherwise. > > Sorry about that. No uname -a, but it's the 5-STABLE from about a few days ago. The kernel config file is actually the (minimally modified) FreesBIE config file from a few months ago, but why is a long story. >You should be able to 'tcpdump -i ath0 -y ieee802_11' to verify that you >can capture 802.11 packets straight off the card. > > I have done that, and I have used kismet. My problem with kismet turned out to just be a wierd way that kismet reports things. >I haven't experienced the problems with walls you mention. > > I use 11a. Like I said, there is no problem with windows. I forgot to mention that windows also reports higher data rates (54Mbps when FreeBSD reports 18Mbps, but I don't trust that, really. It reports up to 108Mbps in turbo, but the AP only supports 76). Also, through a wall or two, windows reports high signal, but I can't test that in freebsd, since the driver doesn't seem to support it. > > >>Last, dstumbler doesn't work. It complains, something about ioctl. I don't >>feel like booting the laptop to get the exact messate at the moment, but I >>will later. >> >> > >dstumbler is for PRISM2 cards only. > > thanks, I had a feeling that it was, but I had to ask. >BMS > > P.S. Please don't reply-all. When you do, I just get two duplicate messages right next to each other. They get sorted to the list's folder as long as they have the list as an address (hence the Reply-To header). Thanks.