From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 25 10:59:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9E855BC8; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 438151664; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s0PAxCrc037676 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:59:13 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk s0PAxCrc037676 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/s0PAxCrc037676; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <52E398FF.9000300@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:59:11 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Big Lebowski , marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What is the problem with ports PR reaction delays? References: <52E2FA36.5080106@marino.st> <52E303CB.6020304@marino.st> <52E30990.2060903@marino.st> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8fo8R3FFtNB2VvIx2SkHHpf3VcColIUgQ" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, DCC_CHECK autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:59:18 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --8fo8R3FFtNB2VvIx2SkHHpf3VcColIUgQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/01/2014 10:35, Big Lebowski wrote: >> Thus, are you volunteering for this role? It's not my call, but if yo= u >> > really want to do clean out and triage the all PRs on an ongoing bas= is, >> > my guess is that would be very welcome and we'd figure out a way to = set >> > that up. It would definitely help, especially for those maintainer = that >> > "approve" patches but the PRs never get opened (or set to a better s= tate >> > than "open"). > If I wouldnt care about FreeBSD and ports state and I wouldnt want to h= elp > with that, I would have not wrote this message in first place. Yes, I w= ould > love to help. There are a lot of people who would love to help with FreeBSD, and there is a lot of help that FreeBSD needs. The problem is that anyone volunteering probably only has a limited amount of time they can donate to the project, and there exists at the moment no simple mechanism for dividing up the workload into small, easily digestible chunks. Take the case of PR triage, often cited as a suitable track for people to start getting involved. Say we get about 300 new PRs in a week. What we need is 20--50 people looking at 6--15 PRs a week, rather than 2--5 people trying to look at 60--150 PRs a week. Trouble is, the first few people to volunteer will find themselves drinking from the PR firehose, and will probably give up long before enough additional people can be drummed up to share the load. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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