From owner-freebsd-current Tue Jan 28 22:54: 7 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0EAD37B401; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:54:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.xcllnt.net (209-128-86-226.bayarea.net [209.128.86.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5F343F79; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (athlon.pn.xcllnt.net [192.168.4.3]) by ns1.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0T6s4MW068266; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@piii.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: from athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h0T6s4Km001876; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:54:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcel@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net) Received: (from marcel@localhost) by athlon.pn.xcllnt.net (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h0T6s4w6001875; Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:54:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 22:54:04 -0800 From: Marcel Moolenaar To: Juli Mallett Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Patch to teach config(8) about "platforms". Message-ID: <20030129065404.GC1715@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> References: <20030129021406.GD1016@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128182013.A13422@FreeBSD.org> <20030129025124.GG1016@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128190158.A15778@FreeBSD.org> <20030129044548.GI1016@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128205737.A22274@FreeBSD.org> <20030129051853.GJ1016@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128213716.A24203@FreeBSD.org> <20030129060515.GA1715@athlon.pn.xcllnt.net> <20030128222052.A26331@FreeBSD.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030128222052.A26331@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 10:20:52PM -0800, Juli Mallett wrote: > > > > Your proposal affects FreeBSD. I'm having a constructive discussion > > about your proposal because I like to understand your point of > > view and tell you mine. Childish behaviour does not impress me. > > In fact it only tells me that you're incapable of convincing me > > and that you're incapable of looking at it from my point of view > > and tell me where I'm missing something. No, you're fixated and > > it took a lot of effort from my end to get to a point where we > > understood each other. If you're tired of it, try an open mind > > next time. > > No Marcel, I've been through your discussion already, with myself, > when I first did this. Then my point of view must have triggered recognition. It didn't. > I came up with the optimal way of doing it > in my head, and considered all the possibilities. Great! Then you should have had no problem convincing me. > I don't have the energy to go > nowhere with you for a long time. That's not my fault. > I already went nowhere with me > for a long time. Yeah, my bad ;-) > Sorry if you find it childish to want to move on from that sort > of rehashing. No, I find it childish that you revert to childish arguments when you could have said that you've gone over this before already with multiple people and that this was intended as a formality only and that you didn't want to rehash it. In fact, you could just as well have committed this :-) > I'm sorry if that was how it seemed... And yes, I am incapable > of convincing you, for now. Maybe if you spent the time on > this problem I did, I could, or maybe if you had to deal with > it, I could. I have no problem accepting this. Maybe if I spend as much time on it as you apparently did I would have come to the same conclusion as you. It's possible that my point of view is the direct result of not having thought it through. The point is that I didn't spend the time and that I have in my head this notion that it makes sense in some other way. I think I did my best to get us in line in an attempt to find mutual understanding. I don't feel responsible for you perceiving it as bikeshedding. If it was, please tell me next time when I do it again. -- Marcel Moolenaar USPA: A-39004 marcel@xcllnt.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message