From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Wed Dec 20 08:40:34 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C281E9F7B7 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:40:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from ms-10.1blu.de (ms-10.1blu.de [178.254.4.101]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 267473C50 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:40:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: from [88.217.106.239] (helo=localhost.unixarea.de) by ms-10.1blu.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eRZvF-0002ae-Mq; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:40:17 +0100 Received: from localhost.my.domain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.unixarea.de (8.15.2/8.14.9) with ESMTPS id vBK8eGwE017688 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:40:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) Received: (from guru@localhost) by localhost.my.domain (8.15.2/8.14.9/Submit) id vBK8eFuo017687; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:40:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from guru@unixarea.de) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.my.domain: guru set sender to guru@unixarea.de using -f Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 09:40:14 +0100 From: Matthias Apitz To: Mouse Cc: David Holland , Eitan Adler , FreeBSD Hackers , tech-misc@NetBSD.org, Kernel@dragonflybsd.org Subject: Re: Objections to converting bsd-family-tree to a dot file Message-ID: <20171220084014.GA17426@c720-r314251> Reply-To: Matthias Apitz Mail-Followup-To: Matthias Apitz , Mouse , David Holland , Eitan Adler , FreeBSD Hackers , tech-misc@NetBSD.org, Kernel@dragonflybsd.org References: <201712161949.vBGJnnMR008332@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20171218011847.GA12528@panix.com> <20171218185446.GA98@netbsd.org> <201712181938.OAA24711@Stone.Rodents-Montreal.ORG> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201712181938.OAA24711@Stone.Rodents-Montreal.ORG> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT r314251 (amd64) X-message-flag: Mails containing HTML will not be read! Please send only plain text. User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.0 (2017-02-23) X-Con-Id: 51246 X-Con-U: 0-guru X-Originating-IP: 88.217.106.239 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 08:40:34 -0000 --IS0zKkzwUGydFO0o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El d=C3=ADa lunes, diciembre 18, 2017 a las 02:38:44p. m. -0500, Mouse escr= ibi=C3=B3: > > My vote would be to ship it in base as SVG and PDF, and forget the > > text version. This is 2017 and everyone has a PDF reader of some > > kind in their UI somewhere. >=20 > Yes, and I love you too. >=20 > I'm just glad I have copies of the text file while it still was a text > file. >=20 > /~\ The ASCII Mouse > \ / Ribbon Campaign > X Against HTML mouse@rodents-montreal.org > / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B I'd prefer to keep it as text (or even ASCII) because we will not gain much= from converting it to some other format. Who wants to have got PDF or JPEG can produce them with a CUPS' pdf backend as: $ lpr -Ppdf bsd-family-tree $ file /home/guru/cups-pdf/bsd-family-tree.pdf /home/guru/cups-pdf/bsd-family-tree.pdf: PDF document, version 1.4 and produce from there the 12 pages as JPEG with: $ convert /home/guru/cups-pdf/bsd-family-tree.pdf /tmp/bsd-family-tree.jpg $ ls -ltr /tmp/bsd-family-tree* -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 77005 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-0.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 85724 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-1.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 82309 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-2.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 79413 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-3.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 70221 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-4.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 162568 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-5.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 155729 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-6.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 167975 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-7.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 162618 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-8.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 153778 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-9.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 178014 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-10.jpg -rw-r--r-- 1 guru wheel 9893 20 dic. 09:37 /tmp/bsd-family-tree-11.jpg Btw: The file is not ASCII, but UTF-8 due to a German Umlaut in some name: $ iconv -f utf-8 -t ascii bsd-family-tree > /tmp/i iconv: warning: invalid characters: 1 $ diff bsd-family-tree /tmp/i 739c739 < Andreas Klemm, Lars K=C3=B6ller. If you're going to San Francisco ... --- > Andreas Klemm, Lars K?ller. 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