From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 22 19:18:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 213321065672 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:18:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80B68FC1B for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so6265016gxk.3 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:date:from:cc:subject :in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent:followup-to :x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:mime-version :content-type; bh=M+BTZIFkjIsfpIuE/YObtH0hLlOouFhx5r7H7mAmA78=; b=JeoZpvEBQEc8YrYB3shCzuPYYN2HRMAtAsT6OBitaqrpZztO0XRtiTOd8gTBaxSc2+ Th4LCb24xC1ZoNjqWf1AAmg5VOzZImySkBsL7TO9NftJVOUWd3wOL6ml9fnQYbQjqiVQ 74f7VTWDmHj6lhEFdDpkYaJpXtJDlJfQvwbwE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:cc:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references :user-agent:followup-to:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint :mime-version:content-type; b=bO28Jc71QLyIMCckRRy+unQV3OuAvvoxUvFvD0LNNQTKMwZnWHPJxv6lYl8IspOLu+ tmmce9iVGdsICbxRoEJNCyn819e03r27WYIAz2IT3yP5UI13fUWxQdHyB0myPu70JTZj fzzenF8dM77lZDXA7074LEpYwGhVqRYp15TB4= Received: by 10.151.1.4 with SMTP id d4mr546167ybi.265.1261509487112; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from ppp-22.68.dialinfree.com (ppp-22.68.dialinfree.com [209.172.22.68]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm2492769ywh.30.2009.12.22.11.18.03 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 22 Dec 2009 11:18:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:17:52 -0500 From: jhell cc: FreeBSD Hackers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) Followup-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:18:08 -0000 On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:31, jasonspiro4@ wrote: > Dear Craig, thanks for maintaining the "killall" command on Linux. > Dear hackers, thanks for maintaining it on FreeBSD. > > Naming it the same as System V killall, which just kills all > processes, can wreak havoc. When someone types a standard Linux > killall command line as root on a Solaris or HP-UX server, System V > killall runs and kills all processes. > > It might be good if you'd rename it to something else. Not "akill" > (All Kill): it looks like IRIX probably ships with something called > akill already, so this would be confusing. Maybe "fkill" (Friendly > Kill). > > You could do this in phases: for the first five years, > /usr/bin/killall could print a warning onscreen, then function as > usual. After five years, it could cease to function unless you call > it as "fkill". > > Craig, and hackers, are you both willing to do this? > > -Jason > This is what shell aliases are for and what a system admins job consist of. If it gives you that much of a problem just alias it out for your self in your .cshrc .shrc .bashrc .bash_profile etc. If you want to change something on a more per user basis figure out how to setup a skeleton directory so when a new user is created they get all the files from that skel copied into there home. If it is more of a system-wide change then the shell files in /etc will probably be of more use. PS: Applying your changes to a mailing list are not const. -- Tue Dec 22 14:09:40 2009 jhell