From nobody Mon Aug 3 19:57:55 2026 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4hDSCg5ptRz6mtRp for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2026 19:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6yearold@gmail.com) Received: from mail-yx1-f53.google.com (mail-yx1-f53.google.com [74.125.224.53]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4hDSCg0s7Vz4GxP for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2026 19:58:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6yearold@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-yx1-f53.google.com with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-66896892b6cso4981882d50.0 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2026 12:58:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20251104; t=1785787102; x=1786391902; h=content-type:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:x-gm-gg:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to:content-type; bh=qhXXNN52/tV8lSp+UeLFbNHYMINvVBcGFra2mm3WAII=; b=TDf+Kx75M2qIxc9Ow02D7+EePW57qKE9nMrWUYS6FfhOyQEsV4Rg5Nwp2TJn3EQsii RMt4gN/rsFTYVoJwIBwmKgclLlYciKvR5isNR1xnsn41frxCySsjg9KgqCJkeB7Ea8nE VuSdCtD+ipKQDBAb7Zg1fIR3YsHdZMjfVAeyuuuFUCLS9lwrs27TZ995GFssIZampDk1 fmgYaYVgpKyrhqqUCQXOSNifv9ydIhUmnVCdraqmE7SqfXEhG7fLqlyf1DnxBMGKZcJO eWLMXUAxLqSZvsZPmS3qDVLMV+PrZsQoMYQFp3K0bg3RySvwmbe9cPIvzy/ikIBp/JV/ cOJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxVz8RQIOZJ6uFDyoBPasnDyJ4J88k6uNNwdZsZvq7fcz260K/V +F8prByQV1dblwR1PcgQStVXZksLQyFu/hxDh0T9oVN736JAX+kRTc914X+fTg9a X-Gm-Gg: AR+sD10Re6jpREaBbJvOFEtTY9fB+ca3exnkZKaxs72v+Ww8pdggGwlf3xe2o7UrIhc uhwxFg/2G1TEwks8OXy25GXQPMmn1reQlHCC749sCQdoHS/PSOT70FuwS/EhL0hL7k1vP/rped+ CJaeWlfMOcTR/BUBnsq+wY6GSadgJlMT94APjf/dON9ZtDX5s8opXiKMqbSRu3HWjlz8uF+ZA+3 O0kyGdEwa+dQOg/+ICYHF+zGz3lvyeUYy1KXYfWcH+f7EcVKNN6DpICbnIPhvPOT0KTv8OBf410 Oo3XjwnNn79t2y5j1UGNK3ZUBxUgJM8eYIxC00ZBx0x6J7W5rgdtJDNEEMRR/OPZwYY8o1Xhr+p 0vg89HJU+/PHd06Fs+u1SBbVvWi4WicueKQ5PQEz1lFYtnUJMdTLbHEn+lWNV+ZJU7Jeiaj08h5 TkUUFF9PlwHEzpQZQXT7FWjdiCyrE+Yvewchn4ynmZHsIOp3ii7iaQUSknhj1D1CJ6nUtmriGfR HWegWxDknvXVnHtBySodZInHEyCunTWk7k0vMEteIJcRDq7NS+wX6HFVkE/62rT3P7Fn5v3MG5N q0Eqm9q7kYe9FpTyCvt/TjtrD5ANwzfsROUMyAoA14uWhjnsw+5o6fnudPf79G/R2ukJvmSa4hV QtBny0arP72oKNrT+0LQq X-Received: by 2002:a05:690e:1589:10b0:664:f064:f668 with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-6694f05f502mr10912149d50.20.1785787102255; Mon, 03 Aug 2026 12:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yx1-f41.google.com (mail-yx1-f41.google.com. [74.125.224.41]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 956f58d0204a3-66948cff994sm6115602d50.2.2026.08.03.12.58.21 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Aug 2026 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yx1-f41.google.com with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-6689f36ae56so5973984d50.3 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2026 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:690e:4513:20b0:668:11e1:1757 with SMTP id 956f58d0204a3-6694f08c9aemr11045995d50.21.1785787101634; Mon, 03 Aug 2026 12:58:21 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.org List-Id: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Owner: Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <86y0en9gpa.fsf@ltc.des.dev> <86qzkf9fox.fsf@ltc.des.dev> In-Reply-To: <86qzkf9fox.fsf@ltc.des.dev> From: Gleb Popov Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2026 22:57:55 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AUfX_mypRBE8uc_VDv_aaKPve2RxRZUt3jXquVzIDsBuaYM5iF9NZqPaf_jBPcg Message-ID: Subject: Re: X.org works on <= 14.3, unusable on >= 14.4 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag=2DErling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= Cc: x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4hDSCg0s7Vz4GxP X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:74.125.0.0/16, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- A couple of things more: * Your user should be in the "video" group. * What's inside your graphical session? Plasma, GNOME, something simple? * How do you enter the graphical session? Some kind of display manager or "startx"? If you're using KDE Plasma, let's try following: echo xterm > ~/.xinitrc startx In the graphical session run tail -F /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if the flickering is here.