From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 28 20:40:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E73F1065678 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from alpha.tibor.org (66-230-99-2.static.acsalaska.net [66.230.99.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D11F58FC0A for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by alpha.tibor.org (8.14.2/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3SKGEoh093506 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:16:14 -0800 (AKDT) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:16:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mike Tibor To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200904281920.n3SJK64A023431@fire.js.berklix.net> Message-ID: <20090428121050.F91785@alpha.tibor.org> References: <200904281920.n3SJK64A023431@fire.js.berklix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (alpha.tibor.org [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:16:14 -0800 (AKDT) Subject: Re: Spamassassin anyone??? X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 20:40:24 -0000 On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Julian Stacey wrote: > My 2c: Bad idea: Moderators. > Romans knew long before us: "Quis custodes custodiensis?" > But others with 2c like moderators, sadly. > > Moderation is a tedious bike shed argument, comes up on loads of > FreeBSD lists periodically, for one compromise idea (just moderate > the unsusbscribed), see suggestion found by google from: Rich > Kulawiec to hardware list recently: > http://groups.google.com/group/muc.lists.freebsd.hardware/browse_thread/thread/c698d9cd3ca2bd9e/f74bcf1e3e95bdd9?lnk=raot > > However probably all would agree: > Volunteer to help postmaster@freebsd.org team on automatic tools > if you have skill & time. I can certainly see why moderation wouldn't be practical, but I've always been curious why the -isp list has had an open posting policy. You would think that those using FreeBSD in an ISP environment wouldn't be put off by having to subscribe to the list in order to post a question, but maybe that's a bad assumption. Obviously you wouldn't want that for many of the other lists, but for more specialized lists like this one, I'm genuinely curious why they're open. Mike