From owner-svn-ports-all@freebsd.org Wed Jan 23 05:06:13 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-all@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5EC714BB2A3; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:06:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.fbsd.io (miwi.fbsd.io [149.28.138.201]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0EC9E8A5D4; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from miwi@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [202.184.97.223] (helo=miwitb.miwi.cc) by mail.fbsd.io with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gmAjl-0006Vn-Pt; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:06:08 +0800 Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 13:06:05 +0800 From: Martin Wilke To: Jan Beich Cc: Christoph Moench-Tegeder , svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20190123050605.3nnkuzxafhrgltvo@miwitb.miwi.cc> References: <201901212303.x0LN3jR3059519@repo.freebsd.org> <20190122100911.GA77378@elch.exwg.net> <20190122205210.GA2480@elch.exwg.net> <20190123021742.crxjjzlcvg3ly55k@miwitb.miwi.cc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-action=pgp-signed In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 202.184.97.223 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: miwi@FreeBSD.org X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.fbsd.io X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Subject: Re: svn commit: r490910 - in head: Mk Mk/Uses mail/thunderbird www/firefox www/firefox-esr www/firefox-i18n www/firefox/files www/palemoon www/seamonkey X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.fbsd.io) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0EC9E8A5D4 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962,0] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 05:06:13 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 04:38:58AM +0100, Jan Beich wrote: > Martin Wilke writes: > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 09:52:11PM +0100, Christoph Moench-Tegeder wrote: > > > >> ## Jan Beich (jbeich@FreeBSD.org): > >> > >> > Looking at Try options[1] and automation[2] I'm not sure WAYLAND=off is > >> > tested nowadays. In www/firefox WAYLAND=off has no effect[3] unless > >> > x11-toolkits/gtk30 also has WAYLAND=off. I've reported the issue > >> > upstream[4] but for now just locally remove files/patch-bug1514156. > >> > If there's no fix in sight after actual release on 2019-01-29 then > >> > the patch can be moved under WAYLAND_EXTRA_PATCHES. > >> > >> I personally don't mind having the wayland stuff around - from > >> the log I gather I disabled it quite some time ago because it > >> broke something ("glx/dri/whatever", sic) back in the days. > >> Now it just works. And firefox 65 works, too. > >> > >> Given that WAYLAND is the default for us, and "without wayland" > >> might be untested anyways - would it make sense to remove the > >> WAYLAND option and force it to "on" always? > > > > Correct me if I am wrong, WAYLAND is a X replacement which is not really working with FreeBSD atm. > > x11-wm/sway works, except on x11/nvidia-driver. No clue about others. > Well thats off topic, but it dosent work for me on a T480 (2018 model) not even getting a full screen yet (tested with scfb and intel / drm-kmod). However please lets not get deeper in to it, i'll send a seprated mail on that later. > GDK_BACKEND=wayland is default in Gtk3 if running under Wayland, except > www/firefox. QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland-egl and SDL_VIDEODRIVER=wayland > often work fine but not default. Lots of X11 apps work under Xwayland > e.g., www/seamonkey, editors/emacs, x11/xterm. > > > Why should I/We install it when we dont use it? For me the only thing it does is increasing build time, > > and for minimal desktops a useless dependency. Its already absurd enough to have 2 CLANG versions > > on a desktop. > > For minimal X11 desktops a lot of stuff is useless e.g., D-Bus per bug 194460 > but accessibility/orca needs D-Bus. I suspect all Wayland-specific dependencies > *combined* don't reach the build time of a single devel/llvm*. I agree on that, but gtk3 still build and works fine without WAYLAND on, and honestly i'd preferd that way for firfox too. - -- +-----------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------+ With best Regards, Martin Wilke (miwi_(at)_FreeBSD.org) Mess with the Best, Die like the Rest -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEQDT3f1gnhUqwZk3nHz/GZTE6EmcFAlxH9j0ACgkQHz/GZTE6 Eme2mAf9FYimIA4Jz4oIgsiFXyQC8xRx3riRsUAPrvxljKKMAa7HYSBgd0s61m8I 7KpiGf6XTSUm2I5sqmv1TI2wXprbppyIOYfQVcc9oi2oITBMyreF+RJOV2F+aNAA LYHP/VmZxKeSAHr5Hz1fVUjyiK7CnlUUSAlWc8CDg7Hf8YKVR6uRHYApMj1chpIq +d3PN/ZeXewmUUj0moVJCe9s/11Qqe2hrfCCKKHxmMlEZcSIdgtHHXCo3Fi3e84r inD0k4bEAzbSaM8VMSqQN2hCm11PcoRBHzZNXyPVGqnK/xSkHr6JsgE5JiaBST3c z+Wf/MMeUE1ewLOaLB5MV3f2/1fcAA== =ne7z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----