From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 21 21:02:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99782106566C; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:02:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3BB8FC20; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n8LL1xN1006512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:01:59 -0700 Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 2D4D51CC37; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:01:59 -0700 (PDT) To: kmacy@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:25:13 PDT." <82c4140e0909211225j5ab8ecf3q2645323bec99274d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:01:59 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20090921210159.2D4D51CC37@ptavv.es.net> X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.8161:2.4.5, 1.2.40, 4.0.166 definitions=2009-09-21_10:2009-09-17, 2009-09-21, 2009-09-21 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-0909210115 Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Ed Schouten , current@freebsd.org, Joel Dahl Subject: Re: tmux(1) in base X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:02:08 -0000 > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:25:13 -0700 > From: "K. Macy" > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > > Screen has almost always been the first thing I install on new > > machines, but recently I've been switching more and more machines > > over to tmux instead. Having it in base would be a great addition. > > > > The first thing *I* always install is xemacs and zsh... most(1) and xemacs(1), but this is getting seriously off topic. 1. Should such a tool be in the base system? 2. If so, should it be screen(1) or tmux(1) I vote 'no' to 1 and 'tmux(1)' for 2. I've just spent a fews minutes with tmux and it has several wins over screen. Then again, FreeBSD is not a democracy, so 'voting' is really just advisory. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751