From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Aug 30 13:30:29 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42ED716A4BF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.amplex.net (mailsrv.amplex.net [64.246.100.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63AE343FAF for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) Received: from marktoshiba (dhcp232-middleton-ap.amplex.net [64.246.108.232]) (authenticated bits=0) by mailsrv.amplex.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h7UKUNj9048197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:30:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <019501c36f35$8bf95930$e86cf640@amplex.net> From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: References: <0AF1BBDF1218F14E9B4CCE414744E70F07DF2D@exchange.wanglobal.net> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 16:29:59 -0400 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: Multi-Homed Routing X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:30:29 -0000 > To achieve BGP feeds for both ISPs you would need to (over simplified): > > 1. Get an AS number that are in great shortage, so it's a real pain and > usually cost money, because you cant do it directly but have to go > through someone who already have an AS number. > Huh? They are hardly difficult to get - just pay your $500 to ARIN (http://www.arin.net - the original post was .ca I believe) and explain why your routing policy is different from your upstreams. > 2. You need to apply for your own address range from your LIR. There is no problem announcing IP space from your current providers. As a practical matter you need at least a /24 of space. > > 3. Upgrade your connections to BGP peering connections at both your isp's. > which usually costs ALOT more than your regular internet connections. > You might have to hire or contract someone to configure this, make sure > they are available after it's configured because like everything else > it breaks. > Usually a fairly nominal one-time charge (if any) to configure BGP with your providers. > 4. quite possibly have to upgrade your server to handle 2 full bgp feeds > and hire someone to manage it. (It -does- break, like everything else) > > Now all this sounds easy, but is virtually unattainable for anyone but > the ones with really deep pockets. > >From a guy with faily shallow pockets it's not that bad.... Mark Radabaugh Amplex (419) 720-3635