From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 17 18:17:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8562C16A51B for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:17:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout7.cac.washington.edu (mxout7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.178]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60FA43D76 for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:17:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout7.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HIHMBX010187 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:22 -0700 X-Auth-Received: from [128.208.5.99] (nilakantha.cs.washington.edu [128.208.5.99]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id k9HIHMI2009384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:17:22 -0700 Message-ID: <45351E06.6000709@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:16:38 -0700 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <70e8236f0610151546y2e644b4ajb3f86de5bff6179a@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0610151557m441baf19ma2ffc0cf504f4edb@mail.gmail.com> <80f4f2b20610170417u18205402q2b9cb2eec97d70ec@mail.gmail.com> <4535028F.4080805@u.washington.edu> <80f4f2b20610171019n2719d671i42aa01884ee8ffeb@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <80f4f2b20610171019n2719d671i42aa01884ee8ffeb@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.0.266434, Antispam-Engine: 2.4.0.264935, Antispam-Data: 2006.10.17.105442 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='__CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: What's so compelling about FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:17:23 -0000 Jim Stapleton wrote: >> Also, I'm not sure when you guys tried Gentoo, but as of late (within >> the past ~1 year), the quality of the packages and system as an OS has >> improved quite a bit, in the sense that many stable items now install >> and work properly in the OS. Another off-topic comment I admit, but I >> thought it should be mentioned... > > I've been trying to deal with it for the past two months, on and off. > OpenOffice would not compile, Xorg took a lot of tweaking and a few > attempts, and a few other programs provided a bit of challange. Only > KDE went more smoothly than it did in FBSD. Hmmm... maybe it's just my playing around with Linux in general before I started using FreeBSD on my servers, but it didn't really seem like that much of a challenge for me. Then again, each user's experience differs, and maybe that's the best gem of advice I can give the original poster of this message when he asked us to 'wow' him. >> I'd like to see portage in FBSD though, since ruby is pretty kludgy. >> Either that or a different means of recording package data and >> dependencies (been thinking of Perl for a while..). > > Where does Ruby fit into this? To my knowledge, ports uses Perl to my > knowledge, and Portage uses Python. > Read the email I just wrote in reply to Raymond (timestamp should be shortly after this email). > And while I wouldn't mind a few of the portage features, such as about > 10k more packages, and a few of the interface/display options, I'd > still rather use FBSD any day. Not saying I don't feel the same either, but the interface for updating ports could be better.. -Garrett