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To: Craig Harding <crh@outpost.co.nz>, chat@FreeBSD.ORG
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At 02:31 AM 9/13/2001, Craig Harding wrote:

>FFS! Give us one citation where RMS has advocated physically hurting
>somebody.

Hurt comes in many forms besides physical harm. Also, Stallman DOES 
advocate using the power of government -- which includes physical
force -- to compel programmers to forfeit the fruits of their labors.

But I don't have time to participate in a long, drawn-out flamefest,
nor do the people who read this list want to read one, I'm sure.
Again, the point of my original message -- which I think (no, KNOW)
is quite valid and germane -- is that mindless, ideological hatred
is a danger. This is true whether it motivates fanatics merely to 
hurt people's livelihoods or to create disasters such as the one 
the world witnessed on Tuesday. The scale is vastly different, but
the principle is the same.

--Brett


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