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Date:      Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:25:09 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "Kenneth D. Merry" <ken@kdm.org>
To:        dkelly@hiwaay.net (David Kelly)
Cc:        syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au (Stephen McKay), freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Seagate vs Quantum.. opinions?
Message-ID:  <199908280425.WAA93707@panzer.kdm.org>
In-Reply-To: <199908280302.WAA60668@nospam.hiwaay.net> from David Kelly at "Aug 27, 1999 10:02:08 pm"

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David Kelly wrote...
> Stephen McKay writes:
> > >Speaking of which, "camcontrol defects -f block" and every other 
> > >variation of "camcontrol defects" fails to list the bad blocks on my 
> > >IBM drives.
> > 
> > >Similar messages when using Adaptec SCSI cards.
> > 
> > Oh!  I've been blaming my ncr SCSI card!  (Well, the driver for it, at least.
> )
> > I'm sure everyone complaining about not being able to read defects lists is
> > using an ncr based card.  I've got some non-ibm disks I can temporarily hook
> > up.  I'll try them too.  And I'll try an aha-1540 too just for kicks.
> 
> None of these work for me, 3 systems, all with different 3.2-STABLE:
> 
> IBM DCAS (4.3G) on early 2940 (7860 based?)
> IBM DCHS (? I forgot, but its 9G) on Symbios '875
> IBM DDRS (9G) on 7890 (Asus P2S MB)
> 
> I've typed up what little I know into send-pr.

It works for me with a DDRS drive on a 2940UW (7880-based) board:

# uname -rs                        
FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE
# camcontrol inquiry da1           
pass1: <IBM DDRS-39130 S97B> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device 
pass1: Serial Number RE2B9804        
pass1: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled
# camcontrol defects da1 -f phys -G
Got 4 defects:
189:6:72
189:6:73
189:6:74
189:6:75

The stable build is from earlier this month (August).  There shouldn't be
any difference in behavior in this regard between a 7880 and 7890.

I'd like to see you try the physical defect format with one of your drives
on an Adaptec controller.  In your PR, you specified block format, which
I've only seen work for Quantum disks.  (Not saying it doesn't work on
others, but I know it usually doesn't work for IBM or Seagate disks.)

Physical sector format usually works, though.

You also didn't specify the PLIST or GLIST.  You should at least try
specifying the PLIST.  You should also use the -v switch to camcontrol so
you'll hopefully get sense information if the command fails.

The NCR driver is known to be a little flaky around the edges sometimes, so
I'm not surprised it might complain.  Unfortunately, complaints from the
NCR driver don't help much, because the only people who know how to
decipher them are Stefan and Gerard, and they only pop up occasionally.

I'll respond to the PR in a minute, so this stuff gets in the database.
The bottom line is you'll have to provide more info before the problem can
be fixed.

Ken
-- 
Kenneth Merry
ken@kdm.org


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