From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 1 09:59:41 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6E616A4CE for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (user-0cdfenm.cable.mindspring.com [24.215.186.246]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01D2D43F3F for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:59:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rsidd@online.fr) Received: (qmail 2126 invoked by uid 1002); 1 Nov 2003 17:59:42 -0000 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2003 12:59:42 -0500 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Bill Moran Message-ID: <20031101175942.GA2082@online.fr> Mail-Followup-To: Bill Moran , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3FA301F6.2010208@potentialtech.com> X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20 i686 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How do hackers drive? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2003 17:59:42 -0000 Bill Moran wrote: > I've always had a uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my stomach that C++ > and other OO languages were more complicated than they needed to be. I could never get figure out C++, the syntax was too complex for me, maybe I never approached it the right way. (Same problem with perl.) On the other hand, a few months ago I tried out python and it was love at first sight. Initially I was writing stuff in a procedural way but I'm beginning to grok OO ideas now and it seems to all just make sense. I wish there was a good compiler for it though, speed is important in a lot of the things I do. Subsequently, I also dabbled in lisp a bit, does anyone use it these days for serious new projects (as opposed to emacs/maxima/other ancient stuff)? Quoted on http://www.smalltalk.org : "I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind." - Alan Kay - Rahul