From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 4 15:41:59 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22132 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22118; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:41:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA03866; Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:40:39 -0800 (PST) To: Karl Denninger cc: John Kelly , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, Chuck Robey , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Donations. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:37:21 CST." <19980304083721.56007@mcs.net> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:40:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3862.889054839@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The issue is that there are certain things that we really *NEED* fixed, and > to stay as priorities in remaining fixed as time goes on (things that used > to work, and are now broken for example - specifically, NFS issues for one, > and behavior under troublesome SCSI conditions [ie: returns of a defective > block from the controller] for another). I'm running kernels and OSs And as I've already noted, if you have a *specific* thing that needs fixing then by all means, find some willing contractors and fund the work independantly. We'll be more than happy to take a look at whatever they come up with and, if it's not a total hack, incorporate it (and note that even if we'd developed a solution internally, it *still* wouldn't make it in if it turned out to be a total hack and so nothing is changed by you doing it vs us doing it). If all this controversy about voting and being coopted by commercial interests and such has shown me one thing with crystal clarity, it's that we honestly DON'T WANT funding from certain segments of the user population. As I've already stated, even large chunks of cash with thick strings attached are not really wanted since you've only palmed off the responsibility for finding personnel and filling out their W2 forms on me and I don't want that - I'd much rather YOU (the figurative you, not necessarily Karl) fill out the W2 forms and deal with the headaches of managing the employee(s) in question. I have enough headaches as it is and the more administrative work you pile on me or anyone else in the core team, the less time I have for doing the kinds of FreeBSD work I want to do and will keep me in this project. Different headaches with much larger $$$ figures attached to them I can have already by simply chucking all this and going back into the commercial software industry. Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message