Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 08:42:01 +1000 From: Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> Cc: Bill/Carolyn Pechter <pechter@shell.monmouth.com>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCVT's death Message-ID: <19980622084201.30984@welearn.com.au> In-Reply-To: <24237.898407963@time.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 10:46:03PM -0700 References: <199806201645.MAA15443@shell.monmouth.com> <24237.898407963@time.cdrom.com>
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On Sat, Jun 20, 1998 at 10:46:03PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> > Actually, I'd love to see a full vt100/220 emulation option put in to
> > syscons to get a unified console driver -- but I'd be pretty
>
> Whoops! I didn't read this far down in your message before
> replying - I guess my previous suggestion *would* change
> your mind then, wouldn't it? :)
>
> I've been having this Really Devious Idea WRT the aformentioned topic
> lately but I'm not sure if I should be saying anything more about it. :-)
Just to add to the motivation... I've spoken to a few people lately who
have several Linux boxes and started converting them to FreeBSD, then
changed their minds. One complaint is that FreeBSD won't talk VT100
in a way the Linux boxes can understand, and vice versa. It's not so
important where the blame lies. What is important is that this one
inconvenience ("a FreeBSD bug") was sufficient to cause installation to
a dozen machines to be cancelled, and it was reported as a warning to
similar businesses who might have wanted to change over to FreeBSD.
A pity. They didn't know about PCVT or screen at the time, but they
knew too much about expecting to see bugs. A FAQ entry would help here.
It seems that Linux should be fixable but many more skilled than I have
tried and failed repeatedly. (I used to boot Linux or OS/2 to connect
to my ISP before discovering screen, yuk!) Linux talks to "everything"
OK except FreeBSD so who's going to bother looking for a fix. We can't
do anything about wetware, but the decision becomes do we work around
it or write those people off. It looks like soon we might not have to
do either :-)
--
Regards,
-*Sue*-
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