From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jul 6 13:48: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from zogbe.tasam.com (cj45658-a.reston1.va.home.com [65.9.36.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DCA237B403; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 13:47:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from battleship (zogbe.tasam.com [10.45.45.11] (may be forged)) by zogbe.tasam.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id f66Klp220170; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 16:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <001701c1065c$edb42a90$0d2d2d0a@battleship> From: "Joseph Gleason" To: "Michael VanLoon" , "Mike Smith" Cc: "'hardware@freebsd.org'" References: <200107052227.f65MRK902192@mass.dis.org> Subject: Re: SCSI vs. IDE -- IBM's take Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 16:47:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any decent mfg will post their MTBF numbers so you can compare them on a per drive basis without using broad generalizations. I found the remark about only 4 IDE drives allowed especially amusing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Smith" To: "Michael VanLoon" Cc: "'hardware@freebsd.org'" Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 18:27 Subject: Re: SCSI vs. IDE -- IBM's take > > While there is obviously a great deal of marketing (FUD) involved in this > > article, it is based on some elements of truth. For one thing, it confirms > > that SCSI drives are, in fact, made to higher standards. > > I don't see any "confirmation" in this at all. I see a lot of opinion, > and some unrepresentative (and uncited) numbers, but nothing I'd base any > sort of decision on. > > > Whether that justifies the cost, of course, is a totally separate issue... > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike Smith [mailto:msmith@freebsd.org] > > > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 2:27 PM > > > To: Michael VanLoon > > > Cc: 'hardware@freebsd.org' > > > Subject: Re: SCSI vs. IDE -- IBM's take > > > > > > > > > > Yet more on this subject... > > > > > > > > I thought this was interesting because IBM is widely > > > considered to make the > > > > best IDE drives in the market right now. > > > > > > > > http://www.storage.ibm.com/techsup/hddtech/ide_raid.htm > > > > > > This reads like a lot of FUD; I'd be embarrassed to be > > > associated with > > > producing something like this... > > > > > > -- > > > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > > > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > > > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > > > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > > > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > > > > > -- > ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his > rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want > to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force > people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] > V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message