From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 30 09:47:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EE3F106566B for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3433F8FC08 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pbbro2 with SMTP id ro2so2120855pbb.13 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=NLR2Z8D4xO8Znt5XvPzxdipUSXk22zOo+WitfxznqIY=; b=T32D5rF0Lbc6qSF/TuCzOsjqoejsUU1SdZRJj9vvy7i/S6weOOdyihH+HrmnG5Faix 6DZgMKtSm/INre3aUeDAMHbeoj6FovaVKiRj5x/jtuI9zvl2EppWsy0lwR74tXhgHbjw zXOMjHvar6FyeBfREfLSa4LIxAI4XBwEzA/SGS1diF9lE898c3jbZx5RY3xWDTdrvV+W vjdiPr5xDRmguyYBHb3e4bSXFaFq7aCFOckdlCYciyJgqbEsh8CBfY29tZJZgt84rpPP sD5BWi5HAC4XFb6+ltOHRW6dEi8mCR5JnyzUG2r0TFW9a1SBRPMufG53f7IgwwYgv0RH HR4Q== Received: by 10.68.239.100 with SMTP id vr4mr43931111pbc.72.1335779229763; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fuji.netgear.com ([50.125.30.143]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id qt3sm1205340pbb.52.2012.04.30.02.47.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:08 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <74720B93-61ED-4CA4-88C1-173356742F3A@gmail.com> References: <092518C9B5214244805F7D2022A4F663@multiplay.co.uk> <1168656383.74335.1335567528359.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> <5E0882E0-405F-46AC-9290-8A195FECD2F4@gmail.com> To: Wojciech Puchar X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Cc: Rick Macklem , Jerry McAllister , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Mehmet Erol Sanliturk , Steven Hartland , Andy Young , Chris Rees Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:47:11 -0000 On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:16 PM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >>>> I prefer "less advanced" FreeBSD >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Ridiculing other projects is not a great way to show superiority. >>=20 >> +1 >>=20 >> Leave mudslinging to marketing and politicians :).. > as for now you and few other people work hard to DE-promote FreeBSD = from those few people that are able to make use of it but yet didn't. I'm sorry=85 I didn't realize that resorting to petty tactics to = achieve one's goals was the way to do things. If it's better, the proof will be in the pudding and people will = flock to it (as another old adage goes -- if you build it, they will = come): plain and simple. > Or more exact - delay, because those that need it sooner or later will = start using it. Advertising that it exists and is used is more important than = saying "x sucks, use y instead". This is the tone I was getting from the = previous response and this is what I discourage as well as others on the = list. If you can do it in a non-confrontational way, I'd say do it. = Otherwise, please don't force your opinion down others' throats. Thanks, -Garrett=