From owner-cvs-all Sat Jan 9 12:24:54 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA09585 for cvs-all-outgoing; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:24:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09579 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:24:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA48192; Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:24:10 -0800 (PST) To: "Robert V. Baron" cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Coda license term changes ... GPL In-reply-to: Your message of "08 Jan 1999 16:41:47 EST." Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 12:24:10 -0800 Message-ID: <48188.915913450@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk > The first piece of mail below was posted to coda-announce earlier in > the week. The netbsd folk (on developers) have been having mixed > feeling over it. A clarification was posted to (developers) which is > also included below. I was wondering how the FreeBSD folk felt. > Note: a number of people have taken offense over the OSS usage in > the first post. This is clarified in the second post. Thanks for the heads-up on this. I guess my personal feelings on this are sort of split. On one hand, I feel you guys should do whatever you want with your license since it's your choice to make and anyone disputing this loudly should just take a hike. I'm a little tired of people thinking they somehow have an implicit right to criticise another group's choice of licenses for THEIR OWN CODE and it's not my desire to make the same mistake here. Your clarification that the kernel bits are not GPL'd also makes our lives in the *BSD camps easier since it means we can distribute binary kernels and such without violating the terms. I don't think we've moved "backwards" here on the licenses any more than we can easily handle. The userland stuff can move to /usr/src/gnu, the kernel stuff can stay where it is. On the other hand, I'm a little saddened that Satya has made such a decision given that the stated goal seemed to be to ensure that CODA had a future past CMU. By GPL'ing it, you've just locked out a number of commercial players and, as the FreeBSD experience has shown, sometimes those commercial players can be pretty valuable. In CODA's case, I think it will make the difference between wider adoption both inside and outside "the industry" and becoming a new defacto distributed filesystem standard vs simply remaining an interesting technological toy that even its most die-hard Linux supporters aren't quite sure what to do with. Oh Well(tm) - what's done is done and I wish the CODA folks the best of luck, no matter how this all turns out. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message