From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 25 07:04:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B7E954F for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FA22F44 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mandree.no-ip.org ([92.228.227.138]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M7m0a-1VOcTB1Lto-00vLZz for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:04:10 +0100 Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost6.localdomain6 [IPv6:::1]) by apollo.emma.line.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FD323CE8F for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:04:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <5292F661.3070907@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:04:01 +0100 From: Matthias Andree User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Upgrading Perl... Somebody just shoot me and put me out of my misery! References: <25503.1385152807@server1.tristatelogic.com> <201311231220.36687.Mark.Martinec+freebsd@ijs.si> <5292F0F5.6090203@gmx.de> <5292F3F0.9020706@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <5292F3F0.9020706@gmx.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:pXvZRcgO7juF2X3jgI2RUT5A3UF2m+Z92XjofjsZIdQFBzJ2PJ2 iXLAijvi9mB+RVo1GxBhn4cPsXqF+xn8XUECyfZ5h8jYQtQk/PaE31pLDQSC1hQLzIK5+H3 ufRA0N33lThR3C7bisNpNqEx5JyIfYWHn94/PDiFxdiF9Vnm4mL8T7Otganl7W0TKvWP/9m gmxQIyG0qUr4L67RBWT0Q== X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 07:04:12 -0000 Am 25.11.2013 07:53, schrieb olli hauer: > On 2013-11-25 07:40, Matthias Andree wrote: >> Am 23.11.2013 12:20, schrieb Mark Martinec: >>> On Friday 22 November 2013 21:40:07 Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: >>>> Now, one last little thing... >>>> >>>> The note in the UPDATING file dated 20131120 gives essentially the same >>>> instructions as the one dated 20131023, *however* it also contains this: >>>> >>>> 1) Change the option in lang/perl5.16: >>>> make -C /usr/ports/lang/perl5.16 config >>>> >>>> HUH?? I don't understand this at all. What exactly is "the option" that >>>> we are changing here? And what does it matter to anything? >>>> >>>> It would be Nice if this were entierly less opaque. >>> >>> $ man ports >>> [...] >>> config Configure OPTIONS for this port using dialog4ports(1). >>> >>>> And what does it matter to anything? >>> >>> Gives you a choice to re-think your existing/chosen port options. >>> For example, a new default is now THREADS, but you may not like >>> it, as it somewhat increases the memory usage and requires >>> to rebuild all perl modules. >> >> Which shows an interesting facet of this whole tedious process: >> >> We're doing a lousy job of explaining the options to unsavvy users, and >> we're also doing a lousy job of tracking options. Perhaps we should >> just slash down the options and go more for "build the default" - it >> also reduces testing complexity and would give for a more uniform ports >> experience for everyone (packages use default options anyways). > > ${opt}_DESC is limited, but help/explanation can be given in pkg-help. Granted, but last time I checked I did not have a "Help" button on dialog4ports. Either none of the ports I've seen offering options offer pkg-help, or dialog4ports needs to be told to feed pkg-help through $PAGER.