From owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 15 10:00:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: emulation@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13D216A41A for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:00:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) Received: from mailomat.net (mailomat.net [217.110.117.101]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2633B43D46 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:00:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ap@bnc.net) X-BNC-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Received: from [87.234.79.110] (account ap HELO [194.39.192.239]) by mailomat.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.6) with ESMTPSA id 8547712; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:59:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <200606142026.26965.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> References: <200606141843.55338.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> <21BFDA04-72AA-4117-BF4C-F5BC949FA7A2@bnc.net> <200606142026.26965.mi+mx@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v750) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93B5BF0B-0699-46B7-AA8C-DCA6578B62BB@bnc.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Achim Patzner Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:59:33 +0200 To: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.750) Cc: emulation@freebsd.org Subject: Re: running MacOS-X i386 binaries on FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Development of Emulators of other operating systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:00:02 -0000 Am 15.06.2006 um 02:26 schrieb Mikhail Teterin: > =D1=81=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B5=D0=B4=D0=B0 14 =D1=87=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B2=D0=B5=D0= =BD=D1=8C 2006 20:20, Achim Patzner =20 > =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=B2: >>> Has anyone from this mailing list looked into the possibility of >>> running MacOS-X (Intel) binaries on FreeBSD? > >> Would it be worth the trouble considering the fact that Apple's >> licenses would make it impossible to use it legally for anything > > Such issues never stopped WINE folks, for example... Wine is a good example; in order to run Mac OS Applications (which is =20= considerably more than being able to execute another architecture's =20 binaries like the Linux emulation - and that was already quite some =20 work) you have to provide most of the supporting libraries, too. =20 Linux is just a kernel; Mac OS X is an operating system coming with a =20= lot of supporting software (commonly called APIs). >> running the Darwin userland (which essentially _is_ FreeBSD anyway) >> in most countries? > > Well, does MS Office run on Darwin? No. Office for Mac is running on Carbon (and will probably move on to =20 Cocoa - It's a task that takes quite a few man years and nevertheless =20= much less work than creating something like Cocoa including all the =20 layers below it). And just taking all the stuff that makes up Cocoa =20 and run it on a Darwin emulator is just another example for breaking =20 licenses and stealing. > >>> Maybe, even MS Office can be made to work? Just curious... >> >> Why don't you just buy a Mac? > > That's a strange question coming from an "emulation" mailing list > subscriber... Why don't you just install Linux? Because I don't have to steal it and break dozens of license =20 agreements to do so. It might not matter to you but to me it does. Achim