From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 7 13:37:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9944D170 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from florent@peterschmitt.fr) Received: from peterschmitt.fr (peterschmitt.fr [5.135.177.31]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB311F7C for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:37:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.29.180.39] (unknown [194.214.114.46]) by peterschmitt.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B3E00A238 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:37:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <51B1E25B.60005@peterschmitt.fr> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:38:35 +0200 From: Florent Peterschmitt User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130518 Icedove/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] dialog4ports does not popup anymore only for global options References: <20130607081210.GD35160@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51B1A5D8.8070906@gmail.com> <20130607094227.GE35160@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51B1B2D5.8020901@gmail.com> <20130607101758.GF35160@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51B1B9F0.2030206@coosemans.org> <20130607113959.GI35160@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <51B1E067.8070204@coosemans.org> In-Reply-To: <51B1E067.8070204@coosemans.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="----enig2PEUGEJMJHVBGTRLJKNCJ" X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 13:37:17 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2PEUGEJMJHVBGTRLJKNCJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 07/06/2013 15:30, Tijl Coosemans a =E9crit : > On 2013-06-07 13:40, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 12:46:08PM +0200, Tijl Coosemans wrote: >>> On 2013-06-07 12:17, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>> On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 01:15:49PM +0300, Vitaly Magerya wrote: >>>>> Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>>>>>> Is it possible to still show the dialog if one of those options i= mplies >>>>>>> additional dependencies? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If not, what should those of us who do not want them installed do= ? >>>>>> >>>>>> make config will always show those options so you can always tune = them. >>>>>> >>>>>> just make config-conditional will not fireup a new dialog automati= cally if the >>>>>> defined options are only those from the global options. >>>>> >>>>> I see. As far as I can tell though, and correct me if I'm wrong, bu= t >>>>> 'make install' doesn't show those options. It also does not show th= ose >>>>> options for dependent ports. Neither does 'make config-recursive'. >>>>> >>>>> Tools like portmaster will now ignore those as well during install = and >>>>> reinstall. >>>>> >>>>> So, again, what are my options if I don't want dependencies to be p= ulled >>>>> in silently? >>>> >>>> You have no options and you never had one in the ports tree sorry. >>>> >>>> If you have a way to implement that cleanly, I'll be happy to push s= uch features >>>> in the ports but really I see a way to do what you ask for. >>> >>> How about only suppressing the dialog if the options have been explic= itly >>> set or unset in make.conf? >> >> That would be easy but is that a really desired feature? >=20 > I can only speak for myself, but I don't see DOCS as a global option. > For some ports I want documentation, for others I don't, so I want the > dialog to show up even if DOCS is the only option. >=20 > There doesn't seem to be a clear cut line between global and per port > options and different users have different opinions about it. >=20 > Can you make it such that config-conditional suppresses the dialog > if all options have been explicitly set or unset either through > command line, make.conf or optionsfile? Or in other words only show > the dialog if one of the options falls back to a default value (e.g. > when a new option has been added to a port and that option has not > been set globally). >=20 > I think that would allow anyone to set/unset any option globally and > not be bothered by dialogs without enforcing that view on everybody > else. You wouldn't need GLOBAL_OPTIONS any more then. >=20 Like you said, every users have different opinion (as I have another than yours :-) ) and the only way I think can satisfy every one is a customizable behavior=85 --=20 Florent Peterschmitt | Please: florent@peterschmitt.fr | * Avoid HTML/RTF in E-mail +33 (0)6 64 33 97 92 | * PDF for documents http://florent.peterschmitt.fr | Thank you :) ------enig2PEUGEJMJHVBGTRLJKNCJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRseJbAAoJEMtO2Sol0IImHIEH/29U46ME4Q32BCp2RcGtwv38 hcmoLzf+afMLfmTp8kOqvZKX6xSie7Dlk/5N3rsLLjcmzZqRBqln2NLLzoJwtyJX d0ZnpqpnQXrOm9Nno2P37v+sBo2ON1I65Uqn1a1cyfJLlidmFpHpwSOEPDcufBmS kpXiISvZdxpXlCNRONgVxlPZkGI/hoPYaNBpARNC6xhHR6WBV597YAPvWZfzf1P0 oMFhHcPZWmC4x1AYQQ+RmSDE0qHN59Gg0QCS0Im3K1FSVg4Psq2PiEQsJk+808UR FjxxIOdyCsCCvbKIdwTfpp09I2uvmggrPb718/DUuotiPFUi1uww/KEwGiBOkl0= =0d76 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2PEUGEJMJHVBGTRLJKNCJ--