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Date:      Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:19:13 -0800
From:      "Duke Normandin" <01031149@3web.net>
To:        "freebsd-questions" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: kill -HUP 1
Message-ID:  <001401bf524b$11231580$6a9dc5d1@webserver>

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-----Original Message-----
From: aunty <aunty@comcen.com.au>
To: Duke Normandin <01031149@3web.net>
Cc: freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Date: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: kill -HUP 1


>On Tue, Dec 28, 1999 at 10:24:50PM -0800, Duke Normandin wrote:
>> I can't seem to get kill -HUP 1 to work.....nothing happens - no error
>> messages, nothing.
>
>That's perfectly correct! Unix complains if something is wrong, and
>leaves you peacefully in the dark in case of success. You had succcess.
>If you had been editing /etc/ttys and had also remembered to make the
>devices, you'd magically have your extra virtual consoles (or whatever)
>after such a reassuring (?) silence following that command.
>
>> I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
>
>The second most important thing is to avoid making any assumptions.
>The most important thing is not to assume you've made a mistake, and
>in fact that was the only thing you did wrong. Then it got worse :-)
>
>> So I have been doing:
>>
>> kill 1 -l
>
>Ugh... (what you typed exactly is more apparent from the description
below)
>
>> It logs out of csh and asks me for the complete path to my shell or
>> return for sh. I press "return"...I get a sh prompt, then I do "exit".
>> Then and only then is the system re-initialized. I have no idea what
I'm
>> doing....but it beats re-booting.
>
>No it doesn't, it _is_ a kind of rebooting. Also it confuses the hell
>out of people who try to answer your question :-)


I suppose I should have been more precise as to what I was doing and
wanted to do:

TERM=cons25

In /etc/rc.conf, I've been experimenting with various fonts. I now
understand from a reply to a previous question of mine, that the fonts I
use must be "matched" to the correct termcap console. So I've been
editting ttys, trying out cons25l1, cons25w, etc etc. Before I got the
nerve to try "kill -HUP 1", I simply did "shutdown -r now", to
re-initialize the system. When I first tried "kill -HUP 1, I _did not_
expect a "pat on the back" from the system, congradulating me on a
successful "kill" ;-) -- rather I was looking for the problem's symptoms
to have disappeared, or different symptom's for the same problem. Nothing
happened; nothing changed with my consoles, leading me to believe that I
had screwed  up the command somehow.

How I came across kill 1 -l, I can't recall. However, it did exactly what
I expected -- re-initialize the system (but w/o the device probing). One
of the problems I'm trying to fix is the rendering of the "window"
borders in "midc" --- using cons25 with the wrong font, or visa versa,
results in a bunch of "garbage" characters for the window border instead
of lines. Soooo, I editted the said "ttys" file, hoping to stumble on a
configuration that would render correctly. In order to test it out, I of
course have to re-init! I was hoping that it would be as simple as doing
"source .cshrc" when I'm messing with ~/ .cshrc.

So, bottom-line, how do I re-init the system without device probing --
i.e. w/o total reboot? As a side-bar guys, what, in your experience, is
the best fonts to use in Unix, to preclude misinterpretation of 1 (one),
l (ell) and I (uppercase i). In win95, I now use Verdana, and the
distinction is now clear for me in this environment.

thanks....duke







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