From owner-freebsd-small Tue Jul 25 11:31:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C637B75C for ; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:31:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@pike.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00353; Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:31:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) From: John Baldwin Message-Id: <200007251831.LAA00353@pike.osd.bsdi.com> Subject: Re: The heart of the problem In-Reply-To: <200007250933.CAA06461@mindspring.com> from W Gerald Hicks at "Jul 25, 2000 02:33:07 am" To: W Gerald Hicks Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:31:08 -0700 (PDT) Cc: small@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG W Gerald Hicks wrote: > > > So, anybody want to be captain? I want to see Pico work! > > Well personally I'd nominate Jeffery if he's willing. Omanchu Oomgali (sp?) > is also a favorite candidate of mine; I incited him to do some work on > PicoBSD some time back and he made very good progress. > > (I'm booked until the end of next month but am willing to pitch in for > coding duty if some direction has jelled by that time). > > However I don't think that freebsd-small can really survive without > deeper consideration by the mainline developers. This is a serious > point and one that has given PicoBSD quite a few fits and starts > during its existence. > > Your suggestions about regular builds are also very insightful. > > IMHO, if PicoBSD is to remain in the tree it should be built regularly > along with the snapshots and/or releases within the standard release > engineering processes. There simply isn't any "bite" when things are > committed that break PicoBSD in various ways, userland and kernel. I think that something like this can be arranged as long as it is non-interactive. A custom version of pico saved me a lot of time back in school when I was admin'ing 80+ FreeBSD workstations and about 30 NT workstations. (It was a client/server system that use dd and rsh to clone disks over the network so we could clone workstations w/o having to pull drives out and swap them around.) So, I've got a little soft spot for pico. :) > I think we'll see jet-powered flying chihuahuas before that happens > though :-) > > Cheers, > > Jerry Hicks > jhix@mindspring.com -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message