From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 25 10:06:10 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA24235 for freebsd-newbies-outgoing; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:06:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (lsmls02.we.mediaone.net [24.130.1.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA24230 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:06:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gummibear@mediaone.net) Received: from mediaone.net (we-24-130-60-145.we.mediaone.net [24.130.60.145]) by lsmls02.we.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA17481 for ; Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:05:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3683D49B.A3A79364@mediaone.net> Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1998 10:08:28 -0800 From: Joey Garcia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unix Desktop References: <3.0.1.32.19981224133345.006990d4@we.mediaone.net> <3.0.1.32.19981224164708.006a0228@we.mediaone.net> <13955.10851.337409.38369@ararat.mygus.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vladik wrote: > gummibear@we.mediaone.net writes: > > At 04:23 PM 12/24/98 -0800, rick hamell wrote: > > > > > >> Lately, I have basically evaluating the X Windows system, and I just can't > > >> figure out why it hasn't been made any easier for average users. I can't > > >> figure out why antialiased fonts (such as true type fonts) haven't been > > >> made the standard. I can't figure out why there hasn't been a solution to > > >> the problem of not having a standardized Interface (or a few standardized > > >> interfaces to choose from when developing applications or whatever - choice > > >> isn't a bad thing). I can't figure out why the standard X libraries and > > >> widget set hasn't been given the 90's look and feel (ala qt libraries). > > > > > > There is a possiblity of another Windowing system. BUT, something > > >you're over looking is that there are several more Window Managers then > > >you've tried. FVMN, Enlightenment, Afterstep. One of them may do what you > > >want. Supposedly Enlightenment is pretty configurable. > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > The things that are still difficult with linux (at least for me) > are setting up Internet dial-up, Xemacs (to read the news groups and > mails)/Fonts for various programs. > Basically I am trying to find programs/packages that allow > me to configure that stuff without knowing anything about the config > files, all GUI driven wizard, that set the whole system up. > I think a good packagin system together with programs like "dofile > generators" will do the job eventually. Yeah, setting up dial-up ppp stuff isn't the most easiest thing to do, but there are scripts out there that help you do this. I have been playing around with perl for quite sometime and I think that maybe I have enough knowledge in C programming to come up with a binary (just because I like binaries) to set up the ppp stuff. Pppd frontends are pretty kewl too. When I used to use Linux I used kppp which was great. The setup wasn't so easy to figure out, but once you figure it out it's basically point and click. With FreeBSD I just setup the ppp stuff manually using the Handbook. It wasn't that hard, but I guess that all varies between users systems and stuff like that. I'm not a pro with XEmacs so I can't help you there. I'm stil trying to figure out what it all does, but I like the color coding. :) I've seen a "Dot File Generator" somewhere on the internet where modules could be added in order to setup different dot files. Although, I forgot where it's at. Anyone know? Although, it seems like most window managers and stuff come with their own configuration software now a days. > Happy holidays, > Vladislav -- =============================================== Joseph Garcia gummibear@mediaone.net Downey, CA =============================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message