From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 17 21:11:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAC716A4CE for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:11:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from tower.berklix.org (bsd.bsn.com [194.221.32.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0305F43D41 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:11:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A7550.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.117.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by tower.berklix.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j1HLBTYS080484; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:11:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@tower.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (fire.jhs.private [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1HLCQX9004422; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:12:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@tower.berklix.net) Received: from fire.jhs.private (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fire.jhs.private (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j1HLCQgX023578; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:12:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jhs@fire.jhs.private) Message-Id: <200502172112.j1HLCQgX023578@fire.jhs.private> To: Sander Vesik In-Reply-To: Message from Sander Vesik Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:12:26 +0100 From: "Julian H. Stacey" cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assuming We Want FreeBSD to Grow: Who Is It For? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:11:32 -0000 Sander Vesik wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:33:22 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > Much hot air on advocacy@ does not qualify. Let's > > - Tell people to move to chat@freebsd.org. > > - Report offenders to postmaster@freebsd.org for blocking. > > - Request postmaster@freebsd.org appends to list definition: > > "Not for arguing about what FreeBSD is or where it should go." > > (developers on current@ etc, are unpaid, & advocacy@ people > > have no right to direct what FreeBSD is & will be.) > > I think its hould be slightly more openly worded - for example, > discussions (i mean rational discussions with technical details) of > what FreeBSD is may be in some warranted - consider for example > producing materials to promote the use of FreeBSD in embedded systems > or similar. OK, fine. Could you (or someone else) please suggest exact words to replace current http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy Furthering the Use of FreeBSD. Share ideas and plan to increase the number of companies and individuals using FreeBSD. Once a number of us back a tighter list definition, we can send it to postmaster@freebsd.org to request it be the official list definition. .. & then use it to tell windy people to go to chat@ or be blocked off list. Thanks - Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz.