From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 18 14:41:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27A5106564A for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jbiquez@intranet.com.mx) Received: from intranet.com.mx (intranet.com.mx [200.33.246.7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839D78FC13 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from PC2.intranet.com.mx (189.191.152.111) by intranet.com.mx with ESMTP (EIMS X 3.3.9) for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:42:24 -0600 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 08:41:09 -0600 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Jorge Biquez In-Reply-To: <20110218050620.GA81273@guilt.hydra> References: <3380813072-1551442120@intranet.com.mx> <20110218032357.GD2049@comcast.net> <20110218050620.GA81273@guilt.hydra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: <3380884944-1551442343@intranet.com.mx> Subject: Re: Best Laptop to buy for Freebsd Without OS? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:41:19 -0000 At 11:06 p.m. 17/02/2011, Chad Perrin wrote: >On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 07:23:57PM -0800, Charlie Kester wrote: > > > > Does it have to be new? > > > > The best deal might be to get a used laptop. Then it doesn't matter > > what it originally shipped with, all you care about is whether it's on > > the FreeBSD hardware compatibility list. > > > > Along these lines, I've seen many people recommending used ThinkPads. > > Might not be powerful enough for the latest Windows, but more than > > capable for running a BSD. > >Be very careful buying used laptops. There are a lot of refurbishers who >are very shady, and a lot of private sellers online that are trying to >make a fast buck off broken hardware. > >In fact, I wrote some code for a shady refurbisher last year to clean >infections of their laptops -- infections that had worked its way into >the images they used to clone drives for refurbished computers. I think >thousands of their systems probably went out infected before they had me >automate the virus-cleaning process for them. > >The short version is simply that I've seen how shady refurbishers work, >up close and personal. Let the buyer beware. > >-- >Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > Hello all. Thanks a lot for your comments. Just doing a little more research, you can not find powerful equipment, at least here, with other OS but Windows 7, and of course cost more. Here it does not matter if you say that I won't use Windows 7, you pay for it and no refund. All the powerful ones come with Windows 7 HP or Windows 7 Pro, No starter versions, so you pay for it if you want it or not. Last chance is to try Dell, will see later. I guess my best bet is top have a used one. Is not that it "has" to be new but I wanted to invest in something new that last some years, my last lap has 7 years but it is short on memory and won't accept more. I will use ebay I guess for used equipment and ask my friend to bring it if possible. If you have good suggestions for places to buy used equipment please let me know (on ebay I has bought in the past equipment that was dead already or that has problems immediately later). Of course sometimes I have bought very good equipment also. Thanks to all for the comments and your time. Jorge Biquez