From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 6 11:28:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB0B106566C for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD388FC16 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obcni5 with SMTP id ni5so13216583obc.13 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mRlanG7D31ljslbUD4UIc17IiG0ejb+ib3VUDw4wmQ4=; b=NexPX33WPeM/2gCZGB86r3fq0VuJWkUCHOf3bCXA98T/ie30ECWUh/mAh7YzXIzmn8 e5yS4+ZRo83dZPbLJA5Sib5ADGnE9RKp1cBwr9JAYgFbGUjm+Seg/O8cjyoLojggIWCc COcZnrGTYCHykvcmGko9JEM+fMqE6rrIOoGaoSZgMHeaAjfgnAXIJ/9UXTsAXRKjHPpr zGlCctYNiX/s+z4Ps1D9k4/nJgGg+BJGdaMHur2GVMdBHDQNDh7xZR+Xra0ID8jnyEmH WAxmMUxi4N7aqdQb4Uiz4CKbFtGJ8CrflsAs+ph8wmp2gN0icS3fV4PQ9VTMAnKWHfg7 Syeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.18.137 with SMTP id w9mr19938601obd.75.1338982094320; Wed, 06 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.53.1 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> References: <20120605203717.5663bdf7.freebsd@edvax.de> <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio> <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org> <4FCF1891.9020006@cran.org.uk> <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org> <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio> <4FCF352F.7030509@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 04:28:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Matthew Seaman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be aware of? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:28:15 -0000 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:47 AM, Matthew Seaman < m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk> wrote: > On 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrote: > > I think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read The $99 > > goes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign as > > many binaries as you want. > > Having to pay Verisign instead of Microsoft makes no difference: the > point is why should I have to pay anything to a third party in order to > run whatever OS I want on a piece of hardware I own? > > $99 as a one-off payment might seem a trivial cost to you, so much so > that you rather rashly promised to pay that for anyone. I won't hold you > to it. Even so, there are several thousand readers of this list. I > doubt even you could afford to subsidise very many of them... > > Yes UEFI Secure Boot may have been around for 8 years. The fact that no > one has adopted use of it in all that time speaks volumes. > > Cheers, > > Matthew > > -- > Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard > Flat 3 > PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate > JID: matthew@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW > > What will be the usefulness of a security key for an Open Source Operating System when people are not using mostly "proprietary" binary packages and nearly all of the supplied binary packages have accompanying sources ? When FreeBSD is installing a binary package or making a port , it is ALWAYS checking integrity of installed parts . Then is there a necessity of a "Security Key" obtained by paying money ? In Turkish literature , there is a person named as "Deli Dumrul" means "Crazy Dumrul" where his name is "Dumrul" . "Crazy Dumrul" constructed a bridge over a dried river . If any one passes from the bridge , he was taking money for passing over the bridge for "Using the Bridge" , and , if any one is NOT passing from the bridge , and walking over the dried river , he was taking money for "Not to Use the Bridge" . It seems that "History is Repeating" .... Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk