From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 19 17:01:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B3D16A4CE for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:01:11 +0000 (GMT) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (papagena.rockefeller.edu [129.85.41.71]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C4343D2D for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:01:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rsidd@papagena.rockefeller.edu) Received: from papagena.rockefeller.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) i9JH18H3006423; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:01:08 -0400 Received: (from rsidd@localhost) by papagena.rockefeller.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i9JH15cN006421; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:01:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:01:05 -0400 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Paul Robinson Message-ID: <20041019170105.GA6401@online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041019163138.GW42527@iconoplex.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.20-20.9smp i686 cc: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Powerbook Setup X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:01:11 -0000 Paul Robinson wrote: > See eBay. A Celeron-based Thinkpad with bluetooth shouldn't cost you > more than $600. How much are iBooks and Powerbooks again? Even > second-hand? Thanks for making it clear you're trolling. Comparing a G4 with a celeron? I admit a G4 can't compete with a newer P4 or Athlon in speed. But then, those things run way too hot for a laptop. Most people don't use their laptops for numbercrunching, and a powerbook is plenty fast enough for office work, email, playing DVDs, even audio/video editing. As for other frills: for $1599 you can get a powerbook (ibooks are much cheaper)with a 1.33GHz P4, 256MB RAM, 60GB disk, NVidia GeForce with 64MB DDR, ethernet, firewire, airport, bluetooth: see what that costs you with IBM, or with HP or others for that matter. And the powerbooks are sleek, rugged, silent, comfortable, and the software "just works". You may not be impressed but your arguments don't make sense. > Try and get your screen replaced. Try and get the motherboard replaced. Try doing those on any laptop. Replacing the screen costs about as much as a new machine. I'd agree with everything you say -- overpriced, proprietary lock-in, etc -- on Apple desktops. With laptops, Apple are extremely competitive, and therefore are selling very well, too. Rahul