From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Apr 17 00:54:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE12D32A6C for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:54:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com", Issuer "dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0FF51453 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:54:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mueller6722@twc.com) Received: from [74.134.208.22] ([74.134.208.22:21889] helo=localhost) by dnvrco-omsmta03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id E0/2B-25473-F0214F85; Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:53:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:53:32 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Thomas Mueller" To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r316977 - head/sys/dev/syscons References: <201704152003.v3FK3o3w002356@repo.freebsd.org> <20170415222136.6c58a00d@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20170416075542.022a6902@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.64.88:25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2017 00:54:49 -0000 > vt(4) is not a pleasant thing to look at. I am not implying that it is bad > code or badly done. I am just saying that it is pretty gnarly and is not > the sort of thing most enjoy dealing with. I got the distinct feeling that > ray@ found the job much uglier than he anticipated when he took the > Foundation commission to write it. Since then it has been widely disparaged > for the things that it does not do, but I am not aware that anyone has > gotten further than looking at what is needed and then running far > away.Some day someone (or some company) will get sufficiently inspired to > either re-write if or add the missing features. I have no idea when that > might happen, though. > Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer I find vt (4) nice when in 1920*1080 resolution, as opposed to the resolution it comes up with after booting FreeBSD. NetBSD newer versions with DRMKMS come up in this high resolution, as does FreeBSD when returning to console after exiting X. But I notice copy-and-paste by mouse on non-X console double-spaces, inserting a blank line between lines. Just for comparison, mouse copy-and-paste did not work at all with NetBSD-current i386 and amd64, but I am now rather behind, and intend to try again after updating to a more current version. Tom