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Date:      Sun, 15 Mar 2020 15:12:00 -0700
From:      Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org>
To:        Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org>
Cc:        src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all <svn-src-all@freebsd.org>,  svn-src-head <svn-src-head@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r359005 - head/usr.bin/calendar/calendars
Message-ID:  <CAG6CVpXDh7yOiyuHLadavorW==H4oXiSz9oF024%2BFiLjihnumQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Pedro,

It seems like you are attempting to belittle me, and perhaps the
entire USA, by intentionally conflating the calendar(1) program with
the entire concept of written records and education.  Stop it.  I know
you're smart and have been around FreeBSD long enough to understand
that in context, 'calendar(1)' referred to /usr/bin/calendar;
pretending to misunderstand in order to respond to a straw man does
not persuade.

It's also just not a great way to treat fellow project contributors,
even if you disagree with my opinion.

Sarcasm doesn't work on the internet.  Especially not among
colleagues.  Please try to speak directly and advocate for your
viewpoints without resorting to it, or sweeping attacks on my person
and/or "culture."

Thank you,
Conrad

On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 11:59 AM Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Some cultures despise the value of history and things like education and
> maps and degenerate accordingly [1]: this tool helps by hinting
> curiosity. Of course if the database is not populated or people don't
> use calendar(1) it won't be effective at all.
>
> > [calendar(1)]'s a toy of a certain era that has aged poorly.
>
> Some quite long lasting institutions like the Roman Catholic Church,
> which will likely outlive me and you, use it extensively:
>
> http://www.romcal.net/output/2020.htm
>
> > [calendar(1)] belongs with other fun and non-integral components, like
> > sopwith(6), in ports.
>
> Ultimately that's one of the reasons why there is interest in a packaged
> base. There are plenty of tools  in base that people don't commonly use;
> we have to find consensus instead of imposing our own limited views.
>
> Pedro.
>
> [1] https://youtu.be/lj3iNxZ8Dww



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