From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Apr 21 17:25:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C09C37B404; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 17:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g3M0PnH68910; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:25:49 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3M0Pmb15553; Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:25:48 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@village.org) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:25:08 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020421.182508.26145541.imp@village.org> To: DougB@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf theory From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org> References: <20020421.113046.131323596.imp@village.org> <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020421154112.N17880-100000@master.gorean.org> Doug Barton writes: : On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : > In message: <200204200256.g3K2uOu10038@sheol.localdomain> : > hawkeyd@visi.com (D J Hawkey Jr) writes: : > : IMHO, you muddy, if not nullify, the abstract altogether. You are advocating : > : copying this file down to /etc, and editing it. There goes the concept of : > : "overriding the values contained in this file". : > : > Yes. /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf are separated because we : > wanted to change the defaults from time to time. : : Users hate this. No they don't. That's just your assertion, but in fact we have several yaers of evidence to the contrary. Only when we change the defaults do people care at all. : > I agree that copying /etc/defaults/rc.conf is a horrible idea. Down : > right stupid and should never be advocated. *EVER*. We had that : > paradigm in FreeBSD 1.x and 2.x and it *DID*NOT*WORK*. That's the whole : > reason that we separated things out into two files. : : People keep leaving off the rest of the advice I gave, which is to : set the variables for the things you care about, and delete the rest. I : think this is perfectly reasonable advice. Relying on the defaults not : changing for things that are important to your local installation is : foolhardy, IMO. Agreed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message