From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 26 22:54:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E29106566C for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:54:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BF78FC08 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werl4 with SMTP id l4so322570wer.13 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.180.24.166 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.180.24.166; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of ml@my.gd designates 10.180.24.166 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=ml@my.gd Received: from mr.google.com ([10.180.24.166]) by 10.180.24.166 with SMTP id v6mr13292080wif.10.1330296884640 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.24.166 with SMTP id v6mr10510022wif.10.1330296884563; Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (did75-17-88-165-130-96.fbx.proxad.net. [88.165.130.96]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gd8sm18127498wib.2.2012.02.26.14.54.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Feb 2012 14:54:43 -0800 (PST) References: <201202251717.q1PHHeXD024464@mp.cs.niu.edu> <201202261106.19487.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> In-Reply-To: <201202261106.19487.erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8J2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8J2) From: Damien Fleuriot Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:53:59 +0100 To: Erich Dollansky X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkkarSBnRdjTurQiOqmx4sIFRNyk2aSizBqndZcfFQM4O+K1Br9fG3PGRwUsYAkxy5rKPF4 Cc: Scott Bennett , "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: random problem with 8.3 from yesterday X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:54:45 -0000 On 26 Feb 2012, at 05:06, Erich Dollansky wro= te: > Hi, >=20 > On Sunday 26 February 2012 00:55:46 Kevin Oberman wrote: >=20 >> I thought he was creating a "monolithic" device...what was called >> "dangerously dedicated". No slices at all. Not only are DD volumes >=20 > yes, I remember this term. And Windows machines get confused but they do n= ot damage the media. >=20 >> mountable, they are bootable. It's been years since I created a DD >> disk as the slight space savings are irrelevant on modern hundreds of >> gigabyte disks, so I may have forgotten how it works. It might still >> make sense on a small thumb drive, bootable or not. >=20 > Never break a winning team. The script doing the job works since a long ti= me. This is the simple reason behind. >=20 Ok so since nobody mentioned it, does the problem happen for ALL your media h= andled in the same fashion, or just the one drive ? What I'm saying is don't blame the software so readily when it might be hard= ware. Get a SMART report on your disk. Also try with another media.=