From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 9 23:11:39 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEA716A420 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:11:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC00443D53 for ; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 23:11:37 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ringworm01@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i31so231207wra for ; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:11:37 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:from:to:subject:date:user-agent:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:message-id; b=rzoHej4sBn1wrcmQqGL5swFZ3dUrmHdl0KQTI8N2167CtZ5vTucpZr1PgJJ87hjdS/HDfjdJn/u4JmNC/aluRbi1Qh8sTQlnjt9MpoemJvSPiyPv2jeGrJ2WgCM2ZwBgQbFdWr1sgS1QX2A5jQ7bYrtV8EEySWJM9wUQwy95Mmo= Received: by 10.54.123.19 with SMTP id v19mr61173wrc; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.10? ( [71.102.14.129]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 40sm748439wrl.2005.11.09.15.11.35; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:11:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Michael C. Shultz" To: Alistair Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:02:58 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.3 References: <43726E40.3090701@iaces.com> <200511091346.22446.ringworm01@gmail.com> <43727B20.3020207@tyeurgain.free-online.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <43727B20.3020207@tyeurgain.free-online.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511091503.00574.ringworm01@gmail.com> Cc: "Paul T. Root" , stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gnome-upgrade.sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:11:39 -0000 On Wednesday 09 November 2005 14:41, Alistair wrote: > Michael C. Shultz wrote: > >On Wednesday 09 November 2005 13:46, Paul T. Root wrote: > >>This script is one of the most frustrating things ever > >>written. > >> > >>[Snip] > > > >As an alternative to gnome-upgrade.sh you may want to consider > >using sysutils/portmanager, all you need do is run > > > >portmanager x11/gnome2 > > > >It'll do the upgrade no problem, tested it twice now myself. > > > >-Mike > > Paul > > This script was the source of my many frustrations. On a dual-boot > Gentoo Linux (production) and FreeBSD (new) server, the script ran > night-after-night on a 2GHz P4 with no sign of completion. > > I admit that my experience of FreeBSD is limited, but my BSD experience > is sound and my Linux experience is extensive, but this one caught me out. > > I think it really is a documentation problem. As far as upgrading Gnome > is concerned, the message I got from the web site was that just running > the script was OK. It should have said, run this script to update > Gnome, but lots of functionaliity of your FreeBSD machine will be > unusable while it runs and it might take many days to complete, even on > a fast machine. > > Also, documentation of portmanager is almost entirely lacking. It is > not (AFAICT) mentioned in the handbook at all. > > I had such high hopes for FreeBSD 6 because earlier releases have been > so nearly ideal for one machine I have that shamelessly functions as > both a powerful 64-bit workstation and a file server. However, my > experience installing it on a 32-bit dual-boot-disc Gentoo Linux box has > been unsatisfactory (at least partly, if not mainly, my fault) so I > think I may do the safe thing and stick to Linux. > > Regards > Alistair > > 1973 MG Midget, with all the Frontline Spridget mods, except the K-Series! > That little monster can still better my 911 hands down in some tight > twisty bits! Here is a link to portmanager's submission for the handbook: http://portmanager.sunsite.dk/distfiles/ports-using.html see section 4.5.5.2 and the PR of the submission http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=88646 Then of course there is the man page portmanager(1) or its website http://portmanager.sunsite.dk -Mike